Well, there's the "ambient mix" of ToD on flip of Perp Dawn single I have (just Ultrabass II on the one side, ToD on the other). Cover has large OrbInDub in Ultraworld font on front, and "remix" on the back. I also have the regular Perp Dawn 12", which was much cheaper but found it later! So, confusion is easily justified, even beyond musical similarity that you note! T -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+timc_orb=charter.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of David Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:57 AM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] Question woops, that's what i meant... perpetual dawn, not towers of dub. they're both heavy on the dub, and song names never stick inside of my brain. ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim C <mailto:timc_orb@charter.net> To: 'What were the skies like when you <mailto:orb@mailman.xmission.com> were young?' Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: RE: [Orb] Question One prominent use of the sample is on Perpetual Dawn/Ultrabass II mix. This is fairly easy to find - check Ebay etc. When they played this at Cydonia/San Fran show it was INSANE. So, I'm pretty sure that's the one you're after - it's easily one of my favorite Orb tracks/versions. T