Hey Kidz! I was at the Tino Corp (Jack Dangers of Meat Beat Manifesto) show here in SF on Sat night, and one of the opening bands was Ben Wa - a very dubby outfit that sounded seriously orb influenced. They used lots of similar sources for samples, and one of the bass lines sounded lifted from an orb tune, and sped up. It sounded so Orb inspired at times, the thought corssed my mind that perhaps someone on the list was involved with the group? They were selling the new Meat Beat album there, but I didn't pick it up. I'd love to hear other's opinions of it, especially the Alex track (though Seofon, a former listee, says "its amazing - Jack is back!" whatever that means). =) rachel ______________________ Rachel's Shrine to The Orb: http://www.migoto.com/orb