I have no interest in mp3's, and *especially* no interest in 'tricky' sorts of music buying schemes (subscriptions, crippleware 'virtual' images, etc.). Although I don't have anything near the sort of collections y'all have, I do enjoy having the real thing (having the original FFWD cd is heartwarming in some strange, frightening way). as a sensitive artist shrinking violet type who essentially just fell off the turnip truck, so to speak, I would like to express my mortification at all the 'bollocking', etc. going on- I don't understand any of it, firstly, and secondly, it *frightens me*~ waaaahhhhhhhh I was curious as to 'who did what' on certain *ORB* recordings.... the most brilliant elements of the music I can think of, of the top of my head: 1) Buckwheat & grits- chord progression, tempo, and the 'edit'/ambient treatment segment somewhere in the middle of the piece 2) track 5 on Pomme fritz- (just this piece in general- who's concept was this based on upon!?) 3) Pomme fritz track 1- the relaxed, icy, synth melody- the first *ORB* i had ever heard, astonishly original, mind completely blown, ice water in my veins 4) assassin live 93- who came up with this alternative instrumentation/ arrangement? 5) Montaigne d'or- steel guitar multitracking/layering and chord progression 6)oxbow lakes- the incredible 'through the looking glass' synth & inversions/ harmonies 7)sentinel- (I'm assuming thrash did almost all of this- synth washes, and relentless asskicking rhythm) ....I could go on for hours like this... Is it safe to say LX does samples and FX, and KW did the synth? What is it about *ORB* with Kris that makes it so much more mythic, spiritual? Orblivion (contrary to much of what I've heard here) does *not* suck, though! 2-5 are brilliant.... but it sounds like Thomas fehlmann's music, as if he's doing almost everything. which is fine- TF is totally awesome- but, well, you know.... I think it would be cool to hear KW collaborate with marumari and curd duca (although I can't imagine their personalities exactly fitting); oh, and LX... old *ORB* with KW was much more beautiful and meaningful elliott ===== **********compassionat.net**********