Actually, I recall downloading the 30-05-2002 set from one of the many FTP's here, then when it turned out to be the wrong one, yes I actually did press the list to see if they had it or could find it so I could find a way to 'liberate' the rest of the shit you'd been hoarding. I even contacted groovetech several times to see if I could get it from them. I'll be open about the fact that all I was doing was trying to find a way to get what you were hoarding out to the public (being that it's called file SHARING, not file TRADING -- the application you're using to trade is a SHARING application. Didn't learn how to 'share' when you were a child?) Sure, sure, you "promised the person you wouldn't share them out." ""(If I had my way I would have publicly shared them but I promised the person I got them from I wouldn't, and I keep my word)"" So then why did you share them out with me? What's the point of keeping them on a list like that if you're not going to share them out? Looks to me like you got your way anyhow, they're now shared publicly. As I recall, I uploaded some Bill Brooks remixes to you that you didn't have, and yes had uploaded a few things that weren't on your list but turned out that you already had. What is it that bothers you about me trying to share what rare music I had with you? That's why it's called 'file sharing'. I was actually just trying to be nice in getting you some stuff it looked like you didn't have. I was able to grab a few of what this guy has and will get them up on Moondog's FTP or anywhere else if I can find one open. As soon as I posted this to the list, he took all of his toys and went home. Has anyone had a chance to look at the list and see if they've got any of these rare live recordings? (http://www.bi11i.com/orb/orbsets.htm)