Ogg sounds pretty cool but it needs a bit more hardware support before I start using it to save my music. If I had big bucks I'd find the best format and make sure it would work in my SoulPlayer (I'm sure it wouldn't cost too incredibly much to get them to make an upgrade) and my car (just install a serious computer IN the car) and implanted in my ear. But I don't have big bucks and just getting my mp3 discman was painful. Has anyone listened to this Mp3Pro format yet? It's some sort of dual encoded thing that my Musicmatch Jukebox Pro has (by the way, the free version of MMJB is really good for ripping and burning and stuff). I just don't have the time to do the analysis. "From: pocketd@gmx.de... ...Christoph from Dortmund, Germany P.S. Check out the new CAN (great stuff): Irmin Schmidt & Kumo - Masters of confusion (www.spoonrecords.com) Burnt Friedmann & Jaki Liebezeit - Secret ryhthms..." What new Can? Send a link, please. Institute for Psychic Reform Change your Mind www.psychicreform.com Please buy something from us.