Now what would be cool is if they could introduce some or the 3d phasing on the remasters to make some of the samples/sounds swirl around your head when listening on headphones. ;-) _____ From: orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Ramon Vink Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:32 PM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: RE: [Orb] u.f.orb remaster... Normally the remaster stage makes use of the allready mixed tracks, so it comes down to a L and R (2) track. They can indeed alter stereo effects by phase alterations, but individual samples cannot be panned differently, as that is covered during the mixdown stage (that is before mastering offcourse). That's why mastering does not miracoulusly change the sounds of a CD UNLESS they change a *lot* with eq etc..... I am not a professional but this is what i know about that stuff/music.. R _____
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2007 13:14:48 +0100 From: garf100@yahoo.com To: orb@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Orb] u.f.orb remaster...
Thank you Ramon and ML for the info.
I must admit that the problem lies within my ignorance of what mastering is.
I was expecting to hear BIG changes. Not so much to be classed as a remix with different notes/samples and stuff but enough for me to able to say "thats different".
I will give it another blast tonight and might compare this new one to the old to try and hear the differences.
Can re-mastering alter the panning or stereo at all? or is it just tweaking bits here and there to kind of highlight some sounds/dampen down others?
Cheers,
kl
--- M L <bytesizenun@gmail.com> wrote:
Well - that's subjective. I don't believe there is anything 'correct' about a creative process. I usually interpret 're-mastering' as a process where a mastering engineer revisits the mix and draws out its subtleties (like Ramon mentioned) and cleans out the cluttered areas. The use of compression may have the engineers mark on it. I usually *expect* a better aural experience from a re-master. That's its purpose, isn't it (unless the previous master was badly done)?
Maybe the credits will show who mastered this version. I would think they'd be waving a flag saying who did it.
On 10/5/07, Ramon Vink <ramonvink@hotmail.com> wrote:
Well, if it is indeed a remastered version, in the
sense that a mastering
engineer took the original mixes and reworked it with eq and compressor tools then it shouldn't sound all too different if it is done correctly. I guess the differences will lie in the very subtle regions. So that is a good thing i would think. It would be horrible if they had overdone their job and compressed the hell out of it (which is popular nowadays: to sound as hard as possible).
R
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Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 21:09:01 +0100 From: garf100@yahoo.com To: orb@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: [Orb] u.f.orb remaster...
hmmmm.
Could someone define what 'remastered' means for me please?
Could it mean re-'glass'mastered where the original recording has no difference whatsoever?
As far as I can tell, this release sounds EXACTLY the same as the original. :(
wikipedia does not fill me with hope either: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remaster
It would seem that I paid good money for something I already own but with different packaging.
Grumpily. kl
--- "Kayle 'KL' Garkut." <garf100@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mine arrived today along with the deluxe edition of Adventures beyond the ultraworld. I got them from amazon.co.uk
Its an 8 page digipak with two trays. The one side opens to hold a booklet.
To my surprise the artwork on the front cover is the same as the original and not the spotty logo we saw a few weeks ago. The spotty logo is however used on the front of the booklet.
Not had chance to listen yet.
kl
--- theorbscureddj <theorbscureddj@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> Mine's on order from Japan. Another release I'm getting is holding it back >but it's ready to go.
just had word from www.amazon.co.uk that mine has been despatched just hope that the bloody postal strike planned here in the UK doesn't hold it up...
cheers... + ++ theORBscureDDJ ++ + ++ http://www.theorbscureddj.blueyonder.co.uk ++
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