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obsessing over the coming of the end of Thrash
by P J Kane 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

<< Yeah you know about it though And that itself is enough to afffect the way you act >> why? no matter what you do it will happen to you anyway? << And the decisions you make >> i think the point of the sig file that we are questioning here is that you need to not live in fear. some people live in fear of death -- it is constantly on their minds. (these people really piss me off on the highways....) << how you feel towards your moment of death How you will handle it >> the fact that you even think about how to handle it means that you are assuming a non-sudden death. which is worse: suddenly dying or a lingering death that you are aware of? my father is dying of liver cancer right now, and it's terrible to watch. my uncle keeled over of a heart attack at work on the day before Thanksgiving. it seems to me that sudden death is much less traumatic -- at least for the person involved. and, in a way, for the family. my aunt had a few days if intense despair, but she has moved on with her life. my mother has been utterly depressed for months, and will be for months more...... so i am thinking that quick and unexpected is the way to go. << Are all considerations That most people have made >> i don't worry about it. i will die, and when it happens it happens. no big deal. << I assume Unless they are so scared They try not to think about it Pathetic.. >> i am not sure that thinking about it and planning for it and, to a degree, anticipating it are worthwhile. i live with the knowledge that it will happen to me, and that is all i need. i do not think about it further. do you Kris, sit there in your drunkeness obsessing over your death? << Yeah its gonna be wicked I reckon..! Maybe not the pain bit so much But the bit after.... >> ah, so Kris is a thiest. who knew? PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org

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Re: [Orb] OT Very proud to be British because
by P J Kane 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Thrash: >Scuse mate >But how can you live like you don't know death? >Isn't that just bullshit? >The fact that we die is surely >An intrinsic part of how we are? but you don't KNOW death. you know it's coming, but that is an entirely different thing. you'll know it when you get there... PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org

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America is great, praise be to America!
by Felix Atagong 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

"Ben May" wrote: < Quotes on the supreme court's decision to void texas's ban on sodomy... ...and Felix replies: Well, they did had to make sodomy legal in the USA, didn't they? Bush has been arse-fucking the rest of the world for years now! Felix Atagong, who still can't understand why on Earth Bush is against the Belgian 'war crimes' law (and against the International War Court in Holland as well). PS: still don't have B&T, shit!

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Canada!!!!
by C orb 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Heeheehee.. Good one.. Im moving out of this shitty country too in a few months bLiP will no longer be a UK label! It might turn french/spainish/italian or canadian I havent quite decided yet.. Thrash come to Canada where the grass is truly greener ; ) Only thing is if you don't support silly middle eastern conquests then the American government will punish you any chance they get. ONE isolated and likely spontanious case of mad cow and the border is closed to all Canadian beef exports. Indefinitely. Terrorisim of the economic variety, all in the name of "safety". And on topic: B&T not here yet and I am going mad waiting for this sub par release from the almighty. I have only listened to a downloaded copy once but what the hell happened? Alot of the tunes are sooo generic and have none of that Orb soul that I have come to love. Maybe I'll come around on this one as I did with orblivion but so far not so good. And for the record I really liked cydonia and most of the badorb stuff. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Message for Ant re Moresounds Server
by Mark Weston 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Hi Ant, Please can you Email me off list a log in and password for the server.Regards Mark W.

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Re: [Orb] Stolen land
by Ben May 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

Well that begs the question: how far back are you willing to go? I mean, do you stop at where things lay 200 years ago? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000? The migration of humans across the globe has been varied and fluid, and arguably started in africa. I mean, if we all went back to where we "came from" if you are looking at a 200,000 year time frame, we'd all end up in chad, which would be worse than where we are now. I agree that europeans arriving in the new world did some horrendous things to the native populations, but those were just a drop in the long long history of atrocities committed by us humans against one another. If you want to deal with atrocities, which is a worthwhile pursuit, deal with it outside of the petty causes.... In terms of the land ownership question, I would argue that, instead of worrying about where you are "from" or where you should return to, we should focus instead on the more fair and realistic goal of trying to open up any land to anyone who wishes to go there. If you were born in the US and you want to go live in australia, more power to you! If you were born in germany and want to move to puerto rico, go for it! I mean what claim does anyone have really to any land? The land will outlive you, making your claim to ownership ephemeral at best. Just be fair! Let people live where they want... As long as you dont displace people, I say go where you want! And if you want to go somewhere where you have to displace someone who's already there, then make an equitable deal. Otherwise, find somewhere else or stay where you are. >-without help, as a holier than thou Canadian, what's your take on the >following: >-the world would be a much better place if all settlers would return to >where their forefathers came from? ------------------------------------------- ``A law branding one class of persons as criminal solely based on the state's moral disapproval of that class and the conduct associated with that class runs contrary to the values of the Constitution and the Equal Protection Clause, under any standard of review.'' -- US Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor 'The only cure for the ills of democracy is more democracy.' - Al Smith 'Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely, or to think sanely, under the influence of a great fear. ' - Bertrand Russell 'Reason and free inquiry are the effectual agents against error. They are the natural enemies of error and error only.' - Thomas Jefferson _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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Re: [Orb] America is great, praise be to America!
by Ben May 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

>Haha no thanks... > >;) > > >On 6/25/03 7:31 PM, "angry troll [OT]" <thrash(a)justablip.co.uk> wrote: > > > Yeah so whaddya want a bleedin medal? Off list topic, but on thread topic: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Scotus-Sodomy-Quotes.html Quotes on the supreme court's decision to void texas's ban on sodomy.... One of them has replaced my george bush idiocy quote in my .sig file hehee. Has some personal repercussions for you brian, I would imagine. ------------------------------------------- ``A law branding one class of persons as criminal solely based on the state's moral disapproval of that class and the conduct associated with that class runs contrary to the values of the Constitution and the Equal Protection Clause, under any standard of review.'' -- US Supreme Court Justice Sandra Day O'Connor 'The only cure for the ills of democracy is more democracy.' - Al Smith 'Neither a man nor a crowd nor a nation can be trusted to act humanely, or to think sanely, under the influence of a great fear. ' - Bertrand Russell 'Reason and free inquiry are the effectual agents against error. They are the natural enemies of error and error only.' - Thomas Jefferson _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

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OT Sudden Death
by Mike VandeVelde 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

I'm kind of hoping that my death will be intense - like getting eaten by sharks or something - but not too drawn out. I watched both of my Grandmas die slow boring painful deaths and I don't want that. You only die once. I don't want to end up wherever I end up and explain to people how I got distracted by some hot chick while crossing the road and got smoked by a bus. That would be like being in jail and explaining to the roid monkeys that it's because you downloaded a bunch of music from the internet. My 2 cents anyway. Fuck going peacefully in your sleep! I'm thinking about retiring into a heroin binge when I'm 60 ;-)

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B&T Video
by bi11i 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

I was poking around at Clare when I was getting my badorb situation sorted out and she told me to watch that V2 website towards the end of next week for the new video. I had originally asked her about a 12" single from the new album, but it looks like Japan doesn't do singles, just promo singles, so there's VERY few floating around out there. here's the URL i found with a pic of it at the bottom http://www.yentek.net/review/ Not really looking for the From a distance mix, but maybe a b-side mix of something else -- anyone seen anything else about this one?

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OT Do something or shut up. Damned foreigners.
by Alan 26 Jun '03

26 Jun '03

>From: "angry troll [OT]" <thrash(a)justablip.co.uk> >America are the problem of the world at the moment >More dangerous than *anything* else >They don't realise it >Cos their media is brainwashing them with bullshit Please don't lump us all together. Right near half of us have our heads on straight. The other half are either fucking half-wits or jack-booted ultra fundamentalist Christian Nazis. You've got a point about the brainwashing. We have a culture that spends its time sitting in front of televisions or in cars. Only in a few major cities and college communities does the art of socializing still exist. The rest of the time they sit and absorb what the television tells them. For instance a lot of Americans now believe that all cops and firemen are "heroes" because of 9/11. The television told them that repeatedly and now they believe it. Firemen are people just like any other. They are wife beaters, pedophiles, nazis, klanmembers as well as good folks and the occasional hero. Cops, on the other hand, are almost all pigs: http://www.biotechimc.org/or/2003/06/552.shtml The 6th - 9th pictures are a good demonstration. A girl leans over to pick up her water bottle, a cop grabs her, hits her in the ribs repeatedly with a stun gun, then walks away laughing. Welcome to the New World Order. You can protest, as long as you're protesting protest. Maybe if you Europeans would start speaking up over here instead of standing there gaping and mumbling to yourselves we might be able to change this crap. People are impressed by well spoken men with accents (everyone thought Tony Blair was the tits even though he constantly used multi-syllabic words). I guess that rules you out, Thrash, but I'm sure some Brits can speak without saying, "oi" and "innit" every few words. I would never recommend killing the President. Al Gore's ok by me. www.psychicreform.com Change your mind. "Look at the past 25 years. We went downhill, and if people don't realize it, they don't have their fucking eyes on ... In 1960, when I came out of prison as an ex-convict, I had more freedom under parolee supervision than there's available to an average citizen in America right now... God almighty, what have we done to each other?" --Merle Haggard (June, 2002)

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