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Re: Orb Digest, Vol 21, Issue 7
by Michael Keeley 23 Nov '04

23 Nov '04

If it makes you feel any better (and it won't), I had the same thing happen to me about a month ago with the 1 TB Lacie; they advised me to use the Data Rescue utility (http://www.prosoftengineering.com) which seems to be doing the trick as far as getting my data back, but I'm left with the unenviable job of backing up some 600 GB of data on DVD-R, 4 GB's at a time. You might download the trial version just to see if it'll work. Regards, Michael On Nov 22, 2004, at 2:11 PM, orb-request(a)mailman.xmission.com wrote: > Message: 10 > Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2004 16:59:32 -0500 (EST) > From: gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com > Subject: RE: [Orb] ot hard drive death > To: 0rb(a)bi11i.com, "What were the skies like when you were young?" > <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> > Message-ID: > <17527.216.49.69.74.1101160772.squirrel(a)webmail.gearboxx.com> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > hmmm...well that sucks. I totally took this drive apart, including > the 3 > discs that make up the drive...being that you can;t just pull them out > real easily, the discs had smudges on them and I tried to wipe them off > with a cloth for cleaning eyeglasses....do you think my discs are > fucked? > I assumed they were roughly like cd's, where you can get dust on them, > but > you can wipe them off to insure clean playback/files... > > I was going to buy an identical drive and use the read/write heads from > the new drive, but the nature of the way the drive is built doesn't > make > it easy to keep things perfectly clean. > > Thanks for all the advice...turns out my bandmate's friend does > repairs at > the apple store here, so we'll prolly ask him if theres anything we can > do. > > Yer Pal, > Gel-Sol > www.gel-sol.com

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trim your replies, please
by Alan Evil 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Please cut back the extended "re:" stuff because it's the right thing to do. Small e-mail is better e-mail. Thank you. ____________________ www.psychicreform.com ____________________ "Be who you are... not what's cool." --Chef.

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RE: [Orb] ot hard drive death
by John Goerner 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Once you've broken the seal you are fucked. Any dust is going to render the discs useless except as christmas ornaments. Disc drives have to be assembled in a clean room to avoid that problem. The data recovery places have to do the same thing. And if you've opened it, I don't know if they will honor the warrantee either. -----Original Message----- From: gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com [mailto:gel-sol@gel-sol.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 4:00 PM To: 0rb(a)bi11i.com; What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: RE: [Orb] ot hard drive death hmmm...well that sucks. I totally took this drive apart, including the 3 discs that make up the drive...being that you can;t just pull them out real easily, the discs had smudges on them and I tried to wipe them off with a cloth for cleaning eyeglasses....do you think my discs are fucked? I assumed they were roughly like cd's, where you can get dust on them, but you can wipe them off to insure clean playback/files... I was going to buy an identical drive and use the read/write heads from the new drive, but the nature of the way the drive is built doesn't make it easy to keep things perfectly clean. Thanks for all the advice...turns out my bandmate's friend does repairs at the apple store here, so we'll prolly ask him if theres anything we can do. Yer Pal, Gel-Sol www.gel-sol.com > The best thing to do is buy another identical drive and swap parts. > You'll hose the drive this way, but will probably be able to grab what > you can off > the disks before all the dust, etc ruins the data. > > -----Original Message----- > From: orb-bounces+0rb=bi11i.com(a)mailman.xmission.com > [mailto:orb-bounces+0rb=bi11i.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of > gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com > Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 11:06 AM > To: Ronald Sansone; What were the skies like when you were young? > Subject: Re: [Orb] ot hard drive death > > Mac...but its a lacie 200 G external. And its a mechanical failure. > "Click, click, click." > > The fucking thing broke less than a day after i bought it. > > Yer Pal, > Gel-Sol > >> mac or pc? >> there are lots of diy data recovery apps around .. or was it a >> mechanical failure? >> >> >> >> On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:06 -0500 (EST), gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com >> <gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com> wrote: >>> I checked out some data recovery places, and they told me it would >>> be anywhere from $600-$2900. Fuck that. I just busted open the >>> lacie this weekend and inspected everything. I'm just gonna hold on >>> to it now until >>> I can find a cheap way to recover my stuff. $200 down the drain. >>> >>> A dvd burner might be the way to go, Alan. I back up most of my >>> stuff to DVD, but i have projects that are over 4.7Gigs...now I'm so >>> paranoid I'm >>> prolly gonna copy my DVDs 2 or 3 times. >>> >>> Yer Pal, >>> Gel-Sol >>> www.gel-sol.com >>> >>> >>> >>> > Just curious but can't you get that hard drive repaired and >>> > recover >>> at >>> > least >>> > most of what was on it? That causes me some panicky feelings as I >>> use >>> two >>> > external hard drives extensively, and one of them holds all my >>> > works >>> in >>> > progress. I copy songs back to my fast HD to work on them. I've >>> gotten >>> > sloppy about backing up to cd-r as some of these new individual >>> pieces >>> are >>> > growing to upwards of a gig each. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ____________________ >>> > >>> > www.psychicreform.com >>> > >>> > ____________________ >>> > >>> > >>> > "Be who you are... not what's cool." --Chef. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Orb mailing list >>> > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb >>> > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Orb mailing list >>> Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >>> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb >>> Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com >>> >> >> >> -- >> http://www.ronaldsansone.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Orb mailing list >> Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb >> Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > Orb mailing list > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Orb mailing list > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com > _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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ot hard drive death
by Alan Evil 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

Just curious but can't you get that hard drive repaired and recover at least most of what was on it? That causes me some panicky feelings as I use two external hard drives extensively, and one of them holds all my works in progress. I copy songs back to my fast HD to work on them. I've gotten sloppy about backing up to cd-r as some of these new individual pieces are growing to upwards of a gig each. ____________________ www.psychicreform.com ____________________ "Be who you are... not what's cool." --Chef.

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RE: [Orb] ot hard drive death
by John Goerner 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

What I do (at work, and now at home) is to have two identical external hard drives, and copy all my backup stuff to each of them (essentially a poor mans mirror). That covers any mechanical problems, but not software or surge type events. When I fill them up, I keep one as an active copy, and store the extra drive as the backup. Gg -----Original Message----- From: gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com [mailto:gel-sol@gel-sol.com] Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 12:06 PM To: Ronald Sansone; What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] ot hard drive death Mac...but its a lacie 200 G external. And its a mechanical failure. "Click, click, click." The fucking thing broke less than a day after i bought it. Yer Pal, Gel-Sol > mac or pc? > there are lots of diy data recovery apps around .. or was it a > mechanical failure? > > > > On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 10:08:06 -0500 (EST), gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com > <gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com> wrote: >> I checked out some data recovery places, and they told me it would be >> anywhere from $600-$2900. Fuck that. I just busted open the lacie >> this weekend and inspected everything. I'm just gonna hold on to it >> now until I can find a cheap way to recover my stuff. $200 down the >> drain. >> >> A dvd burner might be the way to go, Alan. I back up most of my >> stuff to DVD, but i have projects that are over 4.7Gigs...now I'm so >> paranoid I'm prolly gonna copy my DVDs 2 or 3 times. >> >> Yer Pal, >> Gel-Sol >> www.gel-sol.com >> >> >> >> > Just curious but can't you get that hard drive repaired and recover >> > at least most of what was on it? That causes me some panicky >> > feelings as I use >> two >> > external hard drives extensively, and one of them holds all my >> > works >> in >> > progress. I copy songs back to my fast HD to work on them. I've >> gotten >> > sloppy about backing up to cd-r as some of these new individual >> > pieces >> are >> > growing to upwards of a gig each. >> > >> > >> > >> > ____________________ >> > >> > www.psychicreform.com >> > >> > ____________________ >> > >> > >> > "Be who you are... not what's cool." --Chef. >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Orb mailing list >> > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >> > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb >> > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Orb mailing list >> Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >> http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb >> Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com >> > > > -- > http://www.ronaldsansone.com > > _______________________________________________ > Orb mailing list > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com > _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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RE: [Orb] ot hard drive death
by Don Gagen 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

This is DIY for a PC running XP or another MS OS. I assume the process is similar for other OS. You basically need to run an "error check" on the drive. On some systems its call scandisk or checkdisk. After that it will create a bunch of CHK files from the data that it recovered. The files might be hidden, so make sure to change the drive properties so hidden files are visible. They are usually placed in a oddly named folder. The vast majority of your data should still be there. The only problem is that it cannot recover the names of the files for you. The best you can do is run a utility that will sort out the file types and change the CHK extensions to the original like JPG or MP3. I basically had this happen to a huge drive full of thousands images for used for 2D and 3D work as well as some 3D models. The process became so tedious that I decided to save only the 3D models and most essential textures. If the pros can get the file names back it might be worth the money. Here's where I got the utilities to recover the file extensions http://www.ericphelps.com/uncheck/ "There is no greater joy than soaring high on the wings of your dreams, except maybe the joy of watching a dreamer who has nowhere to land but in the ocean of reality." Despair INC. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com -----Original Message----- From: orb-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com(a)mailman.xmission.com [mailto:orb-bounces+dgagen=ensemblestudios.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of gel-sol(a)gel-sol.com Sent: Monday, November 22, 2004 9:08 AM To: What were the skies like when you were young? Subject: Re: [Orb] ot hard drive death I checked out some data recovery places, and they told me it would be anywhere from $600-$2900. Fuck that. I just busted open the lacie this weekend and inspected everything. I'm just gonna hold on to it now until I can find a cheap way to recover my stuff. $200 down the drain. A dvd burner might be the way to go, Alan. I back up most of my stuff to DVD, but i have projects that are over 4.7Gigs...now I'm so paranoid I'm prolly gonna copy my DVDs 2 or 3 times. Yer Pal, Gel-Sol www.gel-sol.com > Just curious but can't you get that hard drive repaired and recover at > least > most of what was on it? That causes me some panicky feelings as I use two > external hard drives extensively, and one of them holds all my works in > progress. I copy songs back to my fast HD to work on them. I've gotten > sloppy about backing up to cd-r as some of these new individual pieces are > growing to upwards of a gig each. > > > > ____________________ > > www.psychicreform.com > > ____________________ > > > "Be who you are... not what's cool." --Chef. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Orb mailing list > Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb > Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com > _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com

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RE: [Orb] New Orb track on Pop Ambient 2005?
by polar-sequence＠home.nl 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

1. The Orb - FalkenbrÃ¼ck, 2. Markus Guentner - Innenfeld, 3. Gas - Pop, 4. Triola -Mondlied, 5. Pass Into Silence - Blue, 6. Popnoname - Gold, 7. Dj Koze - Hummell, 8. Andrew Thomas - Soft Bullet,... http://www.normalmailorder.de/shop/show/title/Pop%20Ambient%202005/artist/V… Dunno about the version of the track. Cheers, Johan > > Apparently, Pop Ambient 2005 will be released generally on 29th November (no > tracklisting anywhere on the web, that I can find... :-)), but there are > samples on the Kompakt Website (www.kompakt-net.de) which allow you to play > a sample of each track (go to the Shop, and do a search for 'ambient' in the > title). > > I haven't played the Komplott EP (on the presumption it's one of those > tracks) often enough yet to determine which one is which! ;-) > > L8rs, > > > Nick ;-) >

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the orb vs meat beat manifesto
by ORBscureDDJ 22 Nov '04

22 Nov '04

says that its in stock ordered me copy with some samples... point your web browser to http://www.juno.co.uk/IP/IF162504-01.htm ttfn.... OÂ®BsÂ©uÂ®eDDJ http://www.orbscureddj.btinternet.co.uk/orbscureddj.html ++ live and direct via soulseek in room #the orb ++ ++ class of 89-93 - big up the tooting massive ++

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Re: [Orb] the orb vs meat beat manifesto
by Noraa Selim 21 Nov '04

21 Nov '04

Methinks Matron (Track 1) is Horn Of Jericho from RUOK. Also wasn't Matron one of the tracks on Fusonic's BOB??? Cool packaging, looks like I can't microwave this one. --- "ORBscureDDJ" <orbscureddj(a)btinternet.com> wrote: From: "ORBscureDDJ" <orbscureddj(a)btinternet.com> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 19:09:32 -0000 To: "Orb Mailing List" <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> Subject: [Orb] the orb vs meat beat manifesto says that its in stock ordered me copy with some samples... point your web browser to http://www.juno.co.uk/IP/IF162504-01.htm ttfn.... O®Bs©u®eDDJ http://www.orbscureddj.btinternet.co.uk/orbscureddj.html ++ live and direct via soulseek in room #the orb ++ ++ class of 89-93 - big up the tooting massive ++ _______________________________________________ Orb mailing list Orb(a)mailman.xmission.com http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/orb Report list abuse to list-abuse at studio-nibble.com _____________________________________________________________ Get email for your site ---> http://www.everyone.net

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RE: Orb Digest, Vol 21, Issue 5
by Ken Erxleben 18 Nov '04

18 Nov '04

hey vex - if you do attend that mad professor show (great decision!) - please make sure to ask him the status of the madorb project! he's very personable...you just need to weasle your way over to talking with him.....LOVE mad professor! ken

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