June 2003 - Orb - mailman.xmission.com

FTP Site
by RMStringer 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

I will be up and running on the 3rd of July for my FTP site. We closed on our house and will be moving in on the 29th of June. My cable will be on the 2nd of July. SO, I will be up and running the next day. YEAH!!!!!!!!! No more dial-up!!! :) RMStringer ************************** "Rationalization is giving a socially acceptable reason for socially unacceptable behavior, and socially unacceptable behavior is a form of insanity". BB - Pg 550

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OT peaceful protest
by Alan 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Sometimes protests get out of hand. This police brutality has been going on all week against non-aggressive protestors. One video I saw showed about thirty pigs rushing a small group of about ten people who were sitting in a circle in a public park (on the grass). As the group scattered they were being beaten, shocked, and sprayed with mace or pepper spray. A female bystander dropped her water bottle while trying to get out of the way of these rampaging animals and when she reached down to grab it a large, male cop pushed her to the ground, put a knee in her back, and then proceeded to repeatedly jab her in the ribs with his stun gun. Not a single cop has been called up for excessive force in these situations. The fucking chief of police is watching this and PRAISING his officers. It's wrong, it's wrong, and it's fucking WRONG. Violent protest is stupid and criminal. Police brutality is far worse as these people are supposed to uphold the law. www.psychicreform.com Change your mind. "Look at the past 25 years. We went downhill, and if people don't realize it, they don't have their fucking eyes on ... In 1960, when I came out of prison as an ex-convict, I had more freedom under parolee supervision than there's available to an average citizen in America right now... God almighty, what have we done to each other?" --Merle Haggard (June, 2002)

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RE: [Orb] OT Best country?
by Don Gagen 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

I think the idea is that the right to protest is protected until you break the law. They intentionally blocked traffic so they should have been fined, arrested, but not beaten. A lot of cops just switch into a ridiculous power trip mode in these situations. Everyone must disperse, but you must somehow disperse without going anywhere. Everyone doesn't disperse gets a tazer shock and a crack with a baton. It defiantly pays to keep the protests peaceful. One of my favorite peaces of protest video I've seen recently was an antiwar protest in San Fran from earlier this year. Protestors started blocking cars and "peacefully" destroying private property. They started banging their protest signs on one of the cars trying to get through. Just an average blue collar worker trying to get from point A to point B... So the guy driving gets out, and he's huge. The protestors wouldn't stop hitting his car. So he ends up beating the crap out of 2 or 3 of them before they would let him leave. DONALD D GAGEN MAILTO:DGAGEN@ENSEMBLESTUDIOS.COM ENSEMBLE STUDIOS http://www.ensemblestudios.com

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OT Best country?
by Alan 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

It's really really sad that we are allowing the "land of the free" to turn into a police state. http://www.crowlove.com/03june24sacramento.htm www.psychicreform.com Change your mind. "Look at the past 25 years. We went downhill, and if people don't realize it, they don't have their fucking eyes on ... In 1960, when I came out of prison as an ex-convict, I had more freedom under parolee supervision than there's available to an average citizen in America right now... God almighty, what have we done to each other?" --Merle Haggard (June, 2002)

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From A Distance Video
by Smiley 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

first, the good news. you can see a stream of the "from a distance" video on the v2 japan website (thanks to "pinky", as usual, for the japanese news). http://www.v2records.co.jp/special/a057_sc/030512/visual.html and now the bad news... ....they're only streaming 15 seconds worth, which is f*cking pointless innit? oh well. cheers, --- Smiley

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Re: Shared lands
by learn&Evolve 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

-a fine intelligent speech from mick(a)onramp.ca & others, I am sad to say that you are all right! -inspired by "step back from the shadows of war, seek out the ways of peace", and talk of love and peace from thrash, I'm changing my ways -now moving to London to "kip on his floor", while he is in France. Love, peace & sharing better include a well stocked fridge because all listees are invited. -turns out the best review of B&T came from fine upstanding listee Smiley (love & peace man??) Any news on live UK/US Orb gigs? R. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

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Stolen land
by learn&Evolve 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Mick Szucs brought up an old subject -interesting -without help, as a holier than thou Canadian, what's your take on the following: -the world would be a much better place if all settlers would return to where their forefathers came from? "History has not been kind to the First Nations people of Canada. When Europeans arrived in the sixteenth century, they brought DISEASE and WAR THAT SLOWELY DESTROYED THE CULTURES THAT EXISTED HERE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS." How about fucking off back to Hungary and give that stolen land back to its rightful owners? R (of native american descent) --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

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Re: [Orb] Stolen land
by P J Kane 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

<< -the world would be a much better place if all settlers would return to where their forefathers came from? >> well, i'm of Irish descent, and i have heard it said that if all the Irish from America, Canada, Australia, the UK and whereever else they ended up went home, there wouldn't be room to sit down on the Island. so, no thanks. PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org

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RE: [Orb] obsessing over the coming of the end of Thrash
by P J Kane 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

<< Where the fuck did all these philosophers come from?!? >> ancient Greece? << Silly, superstitious people. >> pretty much. << The scientific process does it for me. There are still all these great unknowns in our knowledge of how things work. And every time we learn something new it reveals an myriad of things we don't know. Infinity is to me what god(s) is(are) to those that need that kind of thing. >> this sounds like a nice summation of Fritjof Capra's _The Tao of Physics_. PJK please don't hate me because i can't type..... --- All the cool kids are doing it: HTTP://www.EvilSponge.org

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Death and Hell
by Brian Frick 27 Jun '03

27 Jun '03

Death and Hell Are never full, And neither are the eyes of men. Cats can fly >From nine stories high, And pigs can see the wind. -- Brian brian(a)frickster.net

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