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Orb FTP
by Christian G. Nelson 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hi all, try my FTP I will have it online from time to time. 217.215.118.148, on port 21 u/p : orb and please upload! Ps: hammering = Ban I'm on a shared system so be nice! OK /best of regards Dwb.

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ftp situation
by Chain Reaction 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

> What's the current FTP situation? CR's is now defunct... :-/ Steph -- __________________________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup One click access to the Top Search Engines http://www.exactsearchbar.com/mailcom

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BUSH
by Felix Atagong 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

PJK said: "ah yes. a call to arms: ORB FANS UNITE AND TAKEOVER!" And Felix replies: What Orb fans, aren't you afraid that the prehistoric 'ambient' Orb fans will start fighting the Pomme Fritz section, who are at war with the Cydonians? Just thinking. Felix PS: Paging Bill 'Bbroo' - I lost your e-mail address...

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In respone to this message / Off topic
by colin williams 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hmm there is an interesting bit about the tenth amendment being thrown out the window on Robert Anton Wilson's site. http://www.rawilson.com/main.shtml It's regaurding california and medical marjuana, I'm not sure but I think that this bill/law was vetoed by the supreme corut?? If someone knows more about this I'd love it if you filled me in, just for the hell of it I decided to add the qoute, right from the site Bush's War on the Sick and Dying 13 Hephaistis 82 p.s.U. The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people. United States Constitution, 10th Amendment As most of you know by now, my photo went all over the country as the first patient to receive medical cannabis from the city officials of Santa Cruz on September 17; I assume the organizers pushed me up front because of my age, my white beard, my wheelchair and my general resemblence to a colorful Gothic ruin. I've had a lot of experence with civil disobedience, dating back to Vietnam War days, but this occasion seems unique, in that the mayor, the former mayor, the city council and various other local officials participated [not as patients, but as supporters.] In fact, we all acted perfectly in accord with local and state law: Californians voted to legalize medical cannabis by a 55% majority, and Santa Cruz County by a 75% majority. The TSOG [Tsarist Occupation Government], however, has thrown the tenth amendment into the same garbage heap with the first nine. The Bill of Rights exists now only as a historical curiosity, although you can still find it in the back of a good fat dictionary. I suggest that you check this out by looking into your own dictionary before His Royal Fraudulency George II has this subversive document removed and thrown down the memory hole. What will Tsarism in America engulf and devour next? Having invaded medicine -- not only in the present case, but in banning stem cell research-- will the TSOG move on physics next and allow the pointy-headed bureaucrats to decide which of the eight theories of quantum mechanics professors may discuss in class? Will they issue dogmas about mathematical set theory? Will they raid Chinese neighborhoods, indefinetly "detaining" those who prefer herbal meds to allopathic ones? Nothing seems impossible: Tsarist governments use a special logic with deuces, eights and one-eyed jacks wild. I wonder how many of the serfs even remember that the founders intended to create a free country here. Message: 1 From: "Alan Evil" <alanevil(a)bellsouth.net> To: <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 13:42:13 -0500 Subject: [Orb] (no subject) Reply-To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >The interesting thing about the amendments, though, is htat they can be >*overturned*, for example, if two-thirds of the senate *and* house of >representatives wanted to overturn the First amendment.....! I'm right >about this...? (Aren't I?) Just like how prohibition was instituted >then repealed a few years later... Um. No. To amend the Bill of Rights would take a Constitutional amendment which is much more difficult. What you're thinking of is how a bill becomes veto-proof. As a country we are incredibly reluctant to alter the Constitution in any large and apparent manner. States cannot make laws about gun ownership. They always get overturned. You are right about laws concerning carrying guns. Many cities have laws about carrying concealed weapons but this is only applied if said weapon is used or shown. After all, it's concealed. I know that in New Olreans you could walk down the street wearing a holstered side-arm if you wanted. I remember seeing an old man walking a little dog and holding a .357 in his hand. Perfectly legal even if it was scary as shit (he looked WAY too nervous to be allowed to own a pistol). The Black Panthers used to march carrying pump shotguns and it was legal as long as they didn't point them at anyone (then it's assault). I think most states have laws about carrying loaded weapons in the passenger compartment of your vehicle. I think the best solution would be to arm everyone heavily from the age of 8 with a set of required classes on how to use firearms and what they'll do. Then require everyone to carry a loaded weapon at all times. Our society would be so much more peaceful. It's just that everyone would be scared senseless all the time. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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In respone to this message / Off topic
by colin williams 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Hmm there is an interesting bit about the tenth amendment being thrown out the window on Robert Anton Wilson's site. http://www.rawilson.com/main.shtml It's regaurding california and medical marjuana, I'm not sure but I think that this bill/law was vetoed by the supreme corut?? If someone knows more about this I'd love it if you filled me in Message: 1 From: "Alan Evil" <alanevil(a)bellsouth.net> To: <orb(a)mailman.xmission.com> Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2002 13:42:13 -0500 Subject: [Orb] (no subject) Reply-To: orb(a)mailman.xmission.com >The interesting thing about the amendments, though, is htat they can be >*overturned*, for example, if two-thirds of the senate *and* house of >representatives wanted to overturn the First amendment.....! I'm right >about this...? (Aren't I?) Just like how prohibition was instituted >then repealed a few years later... Um. No. To amend the Bill of Rights would take a Constitutional amendment which is much more difficult. What you're thinking of is how a bill becomes veto-proof. As a country we are incredibly reluctant to alter the Constitution in any large and apparent manner. States cannot make laws about gun ownership. They always get overturned. You are right about laws concerning carrying guns. Many cities have laws about carrying concealed weapons but this is only applied if said weapon is used or shown. After all, it's concealed. I know that in New Olreans you could walk down the street wearing a holstered side-arm if you wanted. I remember seeing an old man walking a little dog and holding a .357 in his hand. Perfectly legal even if it was scary as shit (he looked WAY too nervous to be allowed to own a pistol). The Black Panthers used to march carrying pump shotguns and it was legal as long as they didn't point them at anyone (then it's assault). I think most states have laws about carrying loaded weapons in the passenger compartment of your vehicle. I think the best solution would be to arm everyone heavily from the age of 8 with a set of required classes on how to use firearms and what they'll do. Then require everyone to carry a loaded weapon at all times. Our society would be so much more peaceful. It's just that everyone would be scared senseless all the time. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com

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clueless dj
by Alan Evil 02 Dec '02

02 Dec '02

Yes, I'm talking about the one at the end of the show as being clueless. "I feel like I should be snorting some blow or something." What a maroon. The guy talking during the show is obviously loving it. Nonetheless I wish he wasn't in the mix. I also wish I'd been there. Sounds like it was wonderful. Institute for Psychic Reform Change your Mind www.psychicreform.com

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Nevermind, Thrash.
by Alan Evil 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

My stupid ISP had bumped me while I was writing the last letter. It does help to be online. Institute for Psychic Reform Change your Mind www.psychicreform.com

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Re: [Orb] (no subject)
by Zeisscontarex＠aol.com 01 Dec '02

01 Dec '02

In a message dated 11/30/2002 6:46:42 PM GMT Standard Time, alanevil(a)bellsouth.net writes: > I think the best solution would be to arm everyone heavily from the age of 8 > with a set of required classes on how to use firearms and what they'll do. > Then require everyone to carry a loaded weapon at all times. Our society > would be so much more peaceful. It's just that everyone would be scared > senseless all the time. I sincerely hope you're joking! Lee.

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