Friends, Beginning in the Summer of 2005 my wife and I will both have summers off and are considering expanding our sailing, both with new destinations and longer trips. As we think about the possibilities I wanted to ask the group for input regarding good old boats for such an adventure. I know many of you have experience on other boats and would appreciate your feedback Our trips would be roughly 4 weeks in length with just the 2 of us. Our target destinations, initially, would be to sail in and around the Pacific North West; San Juan's, Desolation Sound, etc. The boat would need to be trailerable with our 3/4 ton Van with a maximum trailering capacity of 8,100 lbs. Target price range for boat & trailer is $15 - $20,000. Things that are important to us in a boat are; strong & sea worthy, sailable by 1 person, an old boat that we can invest some time and money into and use for many years and in a variety of sailing conditions. A boat that would hold the bulk of its value. In essence; a larger Montgomery! The new 23 is a beauty but out of our price range. I have only seen 2 used 23's on the market. What other boats would you suggest? Names that have surfaced in my reading are; Albin Vega 27, Contessa 26, Pacific Seacraft 25, Cape Dory 25D (some of which exceed the $20,000 target range). Thank you, I look forward to hearing from you. Since this is an off topic discussion for the list, please email me directly. Thank you, Randy Graves RandyG@cite.nic.edu Post Falls, ID M-15 #407
Re: M_Boats: New 1981 Mongomery-15 owner has some questions for theexperts...Randy, I wouldn't mind seeing comments posted to this group about your request. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Graves To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: Boat Advise - Thanks! Friends, Beginning in the Summer of 2005 my wife and I will both have summers off and are considering expanding our sailing, both with new destinations and longer trips. As we think about the possibilities I wanted to ask the group for input regarding good old boats for such an adventure. I know many of you have experience on other boats and would appreciate your feedback Our trips would be roughly 4 weeks in length with just the 2 of us. Our target destinations, initially, would be to sail in and around the Pacific North West; San Juan's, Desolation Sound, etc. The boat would need to be trailerable with our 3/4 ton Van with a maximum trailering capacity of 8,100 lbs. Target price range for boat & trailer is $15 - $20,000. Things that are important to us in a boat are; strong & sea worthy, sailable by 1 person, an old boat that we can invest some time and money into and use for many years and in a variety of sailing conditions. A boat that would hold the bulk of its value. In essence; a larger Montgomery! The new 23 is a beauty but out of our price range. I have only seen 2 used 23's on the market. What other boats would you suggest? Names that have surfaced in my reading are; Albin Vega 27, Contessa 26, Pacific Seacraft 25, Cape Dory 25D (some of which exceed the $20,000 target range). Thank you, I look forward to hearing from you. Since this is an off topic discussion for the list, please email me directly. Thank you, Randy Graves RandyG@cite.nic.edu Post Falls, ID M-15 #407
Re: M_Boats: New 1981 Mongomery-15 owner has some questions for theexperts...Check out the Balboa's ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Frederick To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:56 AM Subject: M_Boats: Re: Boat Advise - Thanks! Randy, I wouldn't mind seeing comments posted to this group about your request. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Randy Graves To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:54 AM Subject: Boat Advise - Thanks! Friends, Beginning in the Summer of 2005 my wife and I will both have summers off and are considering expanding our sailing, both with new destinations and longer trips. As we think about the possibilities I wanted to ask the group for input regarding good old boats for such an adventure. I know many of you have experience on other boats and would appreciate your feedback Our trips would be roughly 4 weeks in length with just the 2 of us. Our target destinations, initially, would be to sail in and around the Pacific North West; San Juan's, Desolation Sound, etc. The boat would need to be trailerable with our 3/4 ton Van with a maximum trailering capacity of 8,100 lbs. Target price range for boat & trailer is $15 - $20,000. Things that are important to us in a boat are; strong & sea worthy, sailable by 1 person, an old boat that we can invest some time and money into and use for many years and in a variety of sailing conditions. A boat that would hold the bulk of its value. In essence; a larger Montgomery! The new 23 is a beauty but out of our price range. I have only seen 2 used 23's on the market. What other boats would you suggest? Names that have surfaced in my reading are; Albin Vega 27, Contessa 26, Pacific Seacraft 25, Cape Dory 25D (some of which exceed the $20,000 target range). Thank you, I look forward to hearing from you. Since this is an off topic discussion for the list, please email me directly. Thank you, Randy Graves RandyG@cite.nic.edu Post Falls, ID M-15 #407 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Randy, Take a peek at the Balboa 26. It's a big boat, but trailerable. I had a Balboa 20, which was a Hess design. I think they are well made, but you need to ensure that they have been cared for. Price usually 6-9K. You might also look at Cascade 27's and 29's if you are willing to give up easy trailering. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Graves" <RandyG@cite.nic.edu> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:54 AM Subject: M_Boats: Boat Advise - Thanks!
Friends,
Beginning in the Summer of 2005 my wife and I will both have summers off and are considering expanding our sailing, both with new destinations and longer trips. As we think about the possibilities I wanted to ask the group for input regarding good old boats for such an adventure. I know many of you have experience on other boats and would appreciate your feedback
Our trips would be roughly 4 weeks in length with just the 2 of us. Our target destinations, initially, would be to sail in and around the Pacific North West; San Juan's, Desolation Sound, etc. The boat would need to be trailerable with our 3/4 ton Van with a maximum trailering capacity of 8,100 lbs. Target price range for boat & trailer is $15 - $20,000. Things that are important to us in a boat are; strong & sea worthy, sailable by 1 person, an old boat that we can invest some time and money into and use for many years and in a variety of sailing conditions. A boat that would hold the bulk of its value. In essence; a larger Montgomery!
The new 23 is a beauty but out of our price range. I have only seen 2 used 23's on the market. What other boats would you suggest? Names that have surfaced in my reading are; Albin Vega 27, Contessa 26, Pacific Seacraft 25, Cape Dory 25D (some of which exceed the $20,000 target range).
Thank you, I look forward to hearing from you. Since this is an off topic discussion for the list, please email me directly.
Thank you, Randy Graves RandyG@cite.nic.edu Post Falls, ID M-15 #407
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Randy: I have a Neptune 24 for sale, $7500, including trailer, alcohol stove, 3 sails (It's worth $10k). It weighs 3200 pounds and I enjoyed it very much in Puget Sound the time I took it over there. I pulled it with a Chevy Astro van, smaller than a 3/4-ton pickup. The only thing it lacked for Puget Sound was a cabin heater! But you could easily add one. --Gary Hyde M15 #235 'Vanilla' On Thursday, October 23, 2003, at 08:37 PM, Steve & Diana Parsons wrote:
Randy,
Take a peek at the Balboa 26. It's a big boat, but trailerable. I had a Balboa 20, which was a Hess design. I think they are well made, but you need to ensure that they have been cared for. Price usually 6-9K.
You might also look at Cascade 27's and 29's if you are willing to give up easy trailering.
Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Graves" <RandyG@cite.nic.edu> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 7:54 AM Subject: M_Boats: Boat Advise - Thanks!
Friends,
Beginning in the Summer of 2005 my wife and I will both have summers off and are considering expanding our sailing, both with new destinations and longer trips. As we think about the possibilities I wanted to ask the group for input regarding good old boats for such an adventure. I know many of you have experience on other boats and would appreciate your feedback
Our trips would be roughly 4 weeks in length with just the 2 of us. Our target destinations, initially, would be to sail in and around the Pacific North West; San Juan's, Desolation Sound, etc. The boat would need to be trailerable with our 3/4 ton Van with a maximum trailering capacity of 8,100 lbs. Target price range for boat & trailer is $15 - $20,000. Things that are important to us in a boat are; strong & sea worthy, sailable by 1 person, an old boat that we can invest some time and money into and use for many years and in a variety of sailing conditions. A boat that would hold the bulk of its value. In essence; a larger Montgomery!
The new 23 is a beauty but out of our price range. I have only seen 2 used 23's on the market. What other boats would you suggest? Names that have surfaced in my reading are; Albin Vega 27, Contessa 26, Pacific Seacraft 25, Cape Dory 25D (some of which exceed the $20,000 target range).
Thank you, I look forward to hearing from you. Since this is an off topic discussion for the list, please email me directly.
Thank you, Randy Graves RandyG@cite.nic.edu Post Falls, ID M-15 #407
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Randy Graves wrote:
Friends,
Our trips would be roughly 4 weeks in length with just the 2 of us. Our target destinations, initially, would be to sail in and around the Pacific North West; San Juan's, Desolation Sound, etc. The boat would need to be trailerable with our 3/4 ton Van with a maximum trailering capacity of 8,100 lbs. Target price range for boat & trailer is $15 - $20,000. Things that are important to us in a boat are; strong & sea worthy, sailable by 1 person, an old boat that we can invest some time and money into and use for many years and in a variety of sailing conditions. A boat that would hold the bulk of its value. In essence; a larger Montgomery!
Randy, It's somewhat heretical (or more like unfaithful, nautical philandering!) to discuss other boats when you're committed to a particular beauty, but here goes ... As a committed Montgomery owner, the only other boat I'd consider for your (or my) requirements would be a Laguna 26. There aren't many out there, but it's a good one, and I'd say it'd work. My good friends have one (they're former M-15 owners), and have sailed it in the San Juan's for the summer. They have trailered it all around the West, even sailing it in Jackson Lake at the foot of the Tetons. It is currently in Pimlico Sound, North Carolina, awaiting my friend's return from his year of duty in Iraq. Our family is getting bigger, and my wife is tired of hitting her head. One of the nicest things about the Laguna 26 is it has 6ft 1 inch headroom. There's plenty of room, quite a lot actually for a 26 footer. It comes in several different interior configurations: port/starboard settees, port U-shaped seat with starboard galley & nav station, and another kind. Like any boat that size, it has to be specially rigged for single-handling. You need to make sure it either has it, or you know how to install it. On a Montgomery 15 or 17, it hardly matters. As long as you have a foresail downhaul, which are trivial to make, everything else can be handled from the cockpit no matter how it's rigged. Another difference is that the Laguna 26 has shallow cockpit coamings, unlike the deep ones of the Montgomery. It's definitely a different feeling. The bridgedeck on the Laguna is a little better than M-17 but not much. I believe there is one currently for sail in Portland, OR, for about 15K asking price. Regards, John Fleming M-17: "Star Cross'd"
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