Thanks for the feedback guys. Bill, I re-read my post and at the end when I said "Thanks Rick" I totaly see how it looks like Thanks, Rick hahaha I bet Rick was thinking "hey that guy's signing my name to stuff!! But what we really need to be doing is badgering Rick for more pics of his 23's progress! Merry Christmas to you all. Hope you find lots of Monty Stuff under your Christmas tree. Sean