In a message dated 8/4/2004 10:40:01 AM US Mountain Standard Time, BILLAMICASR@aol.com writes: Do I really need the 4X4? No you don't, but a wet ramp can make a small pickup spin the tries. If someone sits in the bed over the back tires, there's no problem. If you find a Ranger with posi traction, that solves the problem too. I don't recommend front wheel drive as a primary vehicle. Trannies aren't made for the job.