Re: M_Boats: Saul number question...
Or someone donated/sold a used sail - My hull number is 316 and I race with 354 on my sails (long story) - I also have a main with #316 and #210 - all have 'relations' to the boat. Only confusing if racing and same # are present - a piece of tape fixes that issue. Nice sail video. toooo hot for sailing here at the moment. GO In a message dated 8/6/2016 12:29:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com writes: Either someone hacked your Monty or a sailmaker put the wrong number on a sail somewhere. The sail should match the hull number. Fair winds, Tom B On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
So I went to the MSOG picture site to have a looksie and there ran into Endelig, hull #279. I have sail #279 which I thought corresponded to hull number? I'll have to look at the hull number again when I get home. Whaddya think??
Jazz
I'm almost positive hull number matches...we'll know in an hour and a half! Just landed and heading home.. On Aug 6, 2016 2:09 PM, "GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Or someone donated/sold a used sail - My hull number is 316 and I race with 354 on my sails (long story) - I also have a main with #316 and #210 - all have 'relations' to the boat.
Only confusing if racing and same # are present - a piece of tape fixes that issue.
Nice sail video. toooo hot for sailing here at the moment. GO
In a message dated 8/6/2016 12:29:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com writes:
Either someone hacked your Monty or a sailmaker put the wrong number on a sail somewhere. The sail should match the hull number. Fair winds, Tom B
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
So I went to the MSOG picture site to have a looksie and there ran into Endelig, hull #279. I have sail #279 which I thought corresponded to hull number? I'll have to look at the hull number again when I get home. Whaddya think??
Jazz
What part of the number is the hull number? There's a 278 and a 279 in there. . On Aug 6, 2016 3:18 PM, "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm almost positive hull number matches...we'll know in an hour and a half! Just landed and heading home.. On Aug 6, 2016 2:09 PM, "GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Or someone donated/sold a used sail - My hull number is 316 and I race with 354 on my sails (long story) - I also have a main with #316 and #210 - all have 'relations' to the boat.
Only confusing if racing and same # are present - a piece of tape fixes that issue.
Nice sail video. toooo hot for sailing here at the moment. GO
In a message dated 8/6/2016 12:29:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com writes:
Either someone hacked your Monty or a sailmaker put the wrong number on a sail somewhere. The sail should match the hull number. Fair winds, Tom B
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
So I went to the MSOG picture site to have a looksie and there ran into Endelig, hull #279. I have sail #279 which I thought corresponded to hull number? I'll have to look at the hull number again when I get home. Whaddya think??
Jazz
How to read your hull number from the boat's HIN - http://msog.org/specs/hin17.cfm :: Dave Scobie On Aug 6, 2016 6:08 PM, "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
What part of the number is the hull number? There's a 278 and a 279 in there. . On Aug 6, 2016 3:18 PM, "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm almost positive hull number matches...we'll know in an hour and a half! Just landed and heading home.. On Aug 6, 2016 2:09 PM, "GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Or someone donated/sold a used sail - My hull number is 316 and I race with 354 on my sails (long story) - I also have a main with #316 and #210 - all have 'relations' to the boat.
Only confusing if racing and same # are present - a piece of tape fixes that issue.
Nice sail video. toooo hot for sailing here at the moment. GO
In a message dated 8/6/2016 12:29:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com writes:
Either someone hacked your Monty or a sailmaker put the wrong number on a sail somewhere. The sail should match the hull number. Fair winds, Tom B
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
So I went to the MSOG picture site to have a looksie and there ran into Endelig, hull #279. I have sail #279 which I thought corresponded to hull number? I'll have to look at the hull number again when I get home. Whaddya think??
Jazz
On Aug 6, 2016, at 5:24 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
How to read your hull number from the boat's HIN -
Missing (I believe) from that explanation: if your number ends with a letter and three digits, the first digit is the year of manufacture and the other two are the model year. My hull number ends H586, meaning it was built in August 1985 but is a 1986 model.
Jazz: The 278 on your boat is likely a reference to when it was made. Feb, 1978. My M17 is hull #278, made in 2-78. Both boats were probably in the shop and under construction at the same time........Feb 1978. Howard On Aug 6, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Jazzy wrote:
What part of the number is the hull number? There's a 278 and a 279 in there. . On Aug 6, 2016 3:18 PM, "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm almost positive hull number matches...we'll know in an hour and a half! Just landed and heading home.. On Aug 6, 2016 2:09 PM, "GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Or someone donated/sold a used sail - My hull number is 316 and I race with 354 on my sails (long story) - I also have a main with #316 and #210 - all have 'relations' to the boat.
Only confusing if racing and same # are present - a piece of tape fixes that issue.
Nice sail video. toooo hot for sailing here at the moment. GO
In a message dated 8/6/2016 12:29:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com writes:
Either someone hacked your Monty or a sailmaker put the wrong number on a sail somewhere. The sail should match the hull number. Fair winds, Tom B
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
So I went to the MSOG picture site to have a looksie and there ran into Endelig, hull #279. I have sail #279 which I thought corresponded to hull number? I'll have to look at the hull number again when I get home. Whaddya think??
Jazz
Agreed it appears there's 2 #279's. How strange. I wonder why the duplicate hull numbers? And apologies for all my typos, I'm usually on the go and fat thumbing my phone! I always see them after the fact..hahaha Jazz On Aug 7, 2016 12:16 AM, "Howard Audsley" <haudsley@tranquility.net> wrote:
Jazz:
The 278 on your boat is likely a reference to when it was made. Feb, 1978.
My M17 is hull #278, made in 2-78. Both boats were probably in the shop and under construction at the same time........Feb 1978.
Howard
On Aug 6, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Jazzy wrote:
What part of the number is the hull number? There's a 278 and a 279 in there. . On Aug 6, 2016 3:18 PM, "Jazzy" <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm almost positive hull number matches...we'll know in an hour and a half! Just landed and heading home.. On Aug 6, 2016 2:09 PM, "GILASAILR--- via montgomery_boats" < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Or someone donated/sold a used sail - My hull number is 316 and I race with 354 on my sails (long story) - I also have a main with #316 and #210 - all have 'relations' to the boat.
Only confusing if racing and same # are present - a piece of tape fixes that issue.
Nice sail video. toooo hot for sailing here at the moment. GO
In a message dated 8/6/2016 12:29:45 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com writes:
Either someone hacked your Monty or a sailmaker put the wrong number on a sail somewhere. The sail should match the hull number. Fair winds, Tom B
On Sat, Aug 6, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
So I went to the MSOG picture site to have a looksie and there ran into Endelig, hull #279. I have sail #279 which I thought corresponded to hull number? I'll have to look at the hull number again when I get home. Whaddya think??
Jazz
I wonder why the duplicate hull numbers?
how it worked, when i asked Jerry the same question as my old M15 is one of two #288s, is each boat build was kept on a clipboard in the shop. on that clipboard there was suppose to be a plastic strip that was laid into the mold to imprint the HIN. sometime these would be missing and the guys would just make one ... ending up in the occasional duplication. other times the guys didn't confirm the strip was removed from the hull mold and when seeing one in place they would just lay up the next hull ... resulting in duplication. the other is that sometimes two strips were made with the same HIN. as you can see my old M15, and the second #288, and yours and the second #279 were likely in the shop at the same time ... and this was the busiest time Jerry experienced while Montgomery Marine Products was around. Jerry & crew were kicking a M15 out the door daily. very possible in a small shop working so fast a few things slipped through the cracks. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 5:52 AM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed it appears there's 2 #279's. How strange. I wonder why the duplicate hull numbers?
And apologies for all my typos, I'm usually on the go and fat thumbing my phone! I always see them after the fact..hahaha
Jazz
Excellent explanation, that's good stuff! -jazz On Aug 8, 2016 11:22 AM, "Dave Scobie" <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder why the duplicate hull numbers?
how it worked, when i asked Jerry the same question as my old M15 is one of two #288s, is each boat build was kept on a clipboard in the shop. on that clipboard there was suppose to be a plastic strip that was laid into the mold to imprint the HIN. sometime these would be missing and the guys would just make one ... ending up in the occasional duplication. other times the guys didn't confirm the strip was removed from the hull mold and when seeing one in place they would just lay up the next hull ... resulting in duplication. the other is that sometimes two strips were made with the same HIN.
as you can see my old M15, and the second #288, and yours and the second #279 were likely in the shop at the same time ... and this was the busiest time Jerry experienced while Montgomery Marine Products was around. Jerry & crew were kicking a M15 out the door daily. very possible in a small shop working so fast a few things slipped through the cracks.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - http://www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage 17 #1 - AIR BORN - http://sagemarine.us/sage_17.html :: Sage 15 sloop #001 - ASOLARE - http://sagemarine.us/sage_15.html :: SageCat #000 - SAGECAT - http://sagemarine.us/sagecat.html
On Sun, Aug 7, 2016 at 5:52 AM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed it appears there's 2 #279's. How strange. I wonder why the duplicate hull numbers?
And apologies for all my typos, I'm usually on the go and fat thumbing my phone! I always see them after the fact..hahaha
Jazz
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