As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water. My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that you put it up that far on your Montgomery. Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365 ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=http... appy-holidays-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001)
Thanks Bert..Tony -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Flickasf@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:27 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: water line As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water. My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that you put it up that far on your Montgomery. Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365 ************** AOL Search: Your one stop for directions, recipes and all other Holiday needs. Search Now. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212792382x1200798498/aol?redir=htt p://searchblog.aol.com/2008/11/04/h appy-holidays-from-aol-search/?ncid=emlcntussear00000001) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
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As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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Thanks Joe...I am in Nashville. I am enjoying the boat. It was a big job getting the road grime off of the boat once it got to me. I had a little cosmetic damage on the boat and on the mast during hauling but Bob helped us get it all worked out. Nice boat and certainly well made...Tony -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Murphy Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:29 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
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As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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Ah yes, it's all coming back. Your boat was on the same trailer as mine. I know what you mean by the grime. My boat was furthest forward and elevated right smack behind the exhaust stacks. I think the truck had a few head gasket leaks. I never saw so much oil spots etc in my life. I'm still trying to remove them from the teak. But no biggy. It gave me an opportunity to get up close and real comfortable with Seafrog. Are you planning to use an epoxy barrier before using any antifouling?? Or is that necessary in fresh water. All my comments to you earlier were based on keeping my boat in saltwater for 8-10 months out of the year. Nashville's not THAT far from Atlantic Beach.... Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:41 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Joe...I am in Nashville. I am enjoying the boat. It was a big job getting the road grime off of the boat once it got to me. I had a little cosmetic damage on the boat and on the mast during hauling but Bob helped us get it all worked out. Nice boat and certainly well made...Tony
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Murphy Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:29 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Flickasf@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:27 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: water line
As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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It's not that far from Atlantic Beach. We should think about a calling all the M Boat together and do some sailing. I am thinking I might use the epoxy barrier. Bluejay is on Kentucky Lake and my plan is to travel down the Tennessee River, to the "Ditch", Black Warrior River on into Mobile Bay. I have done that trip in a H 43 and it was great. While not as comfortable in my M 17 the scenery will be just a beautiful. So I will have it in salt water some next year. Are you installing a depth sounder, GPS or any electronics on your boat? Regards, Tony -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Murphy Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 4:22 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line Ah yes, it's all coming back. Your boat was on the same trailer as mine. I know what you mean by the grime. My boat was furthest forward and elevated right smack behind the exhaust stacks. I think the truck had a few head gasket leaks. I never saw so much oil spots etc in my life. I'm still trying to remove them from the teak. But no biggy. It gave me an opportunity to get up close and real comfortable with Seafrog. Are you planning to use an epoxy barrier before using any antifouling?? Or is that necessary in fresh water. All my comments to you earlier were based on keeping my boat in saltwater for 8-10 months out of the year. Nashville's not THAT far from Atlantic Beach.... Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 3:41 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Joe...I am in Nashville. I am enjoying the boat. It was a big job getting the road grime off of the boat once it got to me. I had a little cosmetic damage on the boat and on the mast during hauling but Bob helped us get it all worked out. Nice boat and certainly well made...Tony
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Joe Murphy Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 2:29 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Flickasf@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 4:27 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: water line
As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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Just an opinion but I always think a boat looks better sitting on the mooring when you can see a little of the bottom paint and a nice boot stripe above the actual water line. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
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As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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Thanks Jeff...I agree. Hadn't thought about the boot stripe but that's a good idea..Tony -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Jeff Packer Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:29 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line Just an opinion but I always think a boat looks better sitting on the mooring when you can see a little of the bottom paint and a nice boot stripe above the actual water line. Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
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As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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I had thought about a stripe right above the antifouling. Before removing the blue tape I made the tape "line" a little wider to create the image of a stripe. But I felt it was making the boat look too skinny so I decided against it. I had it on the last boat and it looked nice but there just doesn't seem to be enough hull to do it on the M-17. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Jeff...I agree. Hadn't thought about the boot stripe but that's a good idea..Tony
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Jeff Packer Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:29 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Just an opinion but I always think a boat looks better sitting on the mooring when you can see a little of the bottom paint and a nice boot stripe above the actual water line.
Jeff
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
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As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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I have always painted a boot stripe that borders the bottom paint and matched the trim color of the boat. Smaller boats might have a stripe about an inch and a half, and on larger boats I have seen up to 3 inches or more. Now... what is the easiest way to tackle this job on a lapstrake hull? Taping over the lapstrakes seems to be a real challenge! Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:46 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I had thought about a stripe right above the antifouling. Before removing the blue tape I made the tape "line" a little wider to create the image of a stripe. But I felt it was making the boat look too skinny so I decided against it. I had it on the last boat and it looked nice but there just doesn't seem to be enough hull to do it on the M-17. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Jeff...I agree. Hadn't thought about the boot stripe but that's a good idea..Tony
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Chris and Jeff Packer Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 5:29 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Just an opinion but I always think a boat looks better sitting on the mooring when you can see a little of the bottom paint and a nice boot stripe above the actual water line.
Jeff
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
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As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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There is no easy way. After I got the tape on I went to each lap and used a stiff index card and layed it on the tape over the gap of the joint. Holding the card in place I rested a fine line Sharpie and drew a thin line. I then filled in the space with tape using the line as a guide. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Jeff Packer" <cjpacker@theofficenet.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 10:41 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I have always painted a boot stripe that borders the bottom paint and matched the trim color of the boat. Smaller boats might have a stripe about an inch and a half, and on larger boats I have seen up to 3 inches or more. Now... what is the easiest way to tackle this job on a lapstrake hull? Taping over the lapstrakes seems to be a real challenge!
Jeff
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I had thought about a stripe right above the antifouling. Before removing the blue tape I made the tape "line" a little wider to create the image of a stripe. But I felt it was making the boat look too skinny so I decided against it. I had it on the last boat and it looked nice but there just doesn't seem to be enough hull to do it on the M-17. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Jeff...I agree. Hadn't thought about the boot stripe but that's a good idea..Tony
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Just an opinion but I always think a boat looks better sitting on the mooring when you can see a little of the bottom paint and a nice boot stripe above the actual water line.
Jeff
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
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As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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I agree. Very 'yachty' Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris and Jeff Packer" <cjpacker@theofficenet.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 6:29 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Just an opinion but I always think a boat looks better sitting on the mooring when you can see a little of the bottom paint and a nice boot stripe above the actual water line.
Jeff
----- Original Message ----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
I echo Bert's recommendation on where to paint the bottom paint with respect to the water line. I put mine about an inch and a half above the water line. If you walk around marinas and look at the boats you'll notice the slime and tiny barnacles grow right at the water line. This is where the activity initially takes place. Having the paint line above the water line will also allow for added weight for cruising. Now some will say, you'd have to be cruisinng for a long time before any buildup would take place. But I watched a friend who had bought a new boat and put it in the slip right next to mine. He left it in the water sans bottom paint for a month. When he finally hauled it out he ended up spending a lot more to have the bottom cleaned up. Secondly, having the paint line higher will allow for swells and small waves. On my previous boat I had the bottom cleaned every month. I never noticed any areas where the scrubbing took off any of the bottom paint. Tony, I forgot where you are located. I know you're somewhere on the east coast. Hope you are enjoying your new boat. Joe
----- Original Message ----- From: "E. Tony Reed" <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water line
Thanks Bert..Tony
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As always there are different opinions, but I would at least bring the bottom paint to the water line. If you do not, you will get ugly growth where the
hull sits in the water unpainted. At least this is true in salt water.
My Flicka has her bottom paint about one and one half inches above the water
line; I replaced the cove stripe. It is covered with antifouling paint. In this way, when she is loaded, I don't get growth. I am not suggesting that
you put it up that far on your Montgomery.
Enjoy, Bert Zephyr, M 15 # 365
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