thanks for the info, I was looking at the West Marine "mini" model # 300330. ( pg 1019 ) as a replacement. I have good snap shackles so I only need the vang. I'll check on the Laser vang model also. thanks Randy Watkins <<< jk@yosemite.net 3/29 3:00p >>> Randy, I ordered boom vang parts from West Marine, using upper and lower blocks designed for a Lazer. I was able to get the T-notch boom plate directly from a Lazer distributor. Works great! Joe Kidd M15 #207 "Poco A Poco" _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats