Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located? I want to be environmentally correct Thanks Capt Jim SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
Hi Jim, I use inexpensive 9’ oars from Ocean South. They are two-piece aluminum. 10’ oars are recommended but the longest oars from Ocean South are 9’. I think they work fine and are easy to stow below. I can send you photos and specs separately if you want. Don BrysonNanettePort Townsend, WA Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 7:29 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote: Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located? I want to be environmentally correct Thanks Capt Jim SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
The oars from Duckworks are really nice, I think they call them Xploars or something like that. Reasonably priced if a remember. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jan 6, 2024, at 8:10 PM, Don Bryson via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Jim, I use inexpensive 9’ oars from Ocean South. They are two-piece aluminum. 10’ oars are recommended but the longest oars from Ocean South are 9’. I think they work fine and are easy to stow below. I can send you photos and specs separately if you want. Don BrysonNanettePort Townsend, WA
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On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 7:29 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located?
I want to be environmentally correct
Thanks
Capt Jim SV Pelican
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Thanks for this tip - Ocean South USA website, oars selection - pretty reasonable prices for 2-piece utility oars with some shape to the blade: https://oceansouth.us/product-category/oars-paddles-boathooks/oars/ Duckworks has XPL Oars, the very high end at 8-10X the cost, carbon fiber with basswood grips: https://duckworks.com/xpl-oars/ Duckworks used to sell oar ferrules for converting one-piece oars to two-piece but now they only appear to have smaller ferrules for double-bladed paddles. Might be big enough for smaller shaft oars? cheers, John On 1/6/24 20:39, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
The oars from Duckworks are really nice, I think they call them Xploars or something like that. Reasonably priced if a remember. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jan 6, 2024, at 8:10 PM, Don Bryson via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Jim, I use inexpensive 9’ oars from Ocean South. They are two-piece aluminum. 10’ oars are recommended but the longest oars from Ocean South are 9’. I think they work fine and are easy to stow below. I can send you photos and specs separately if you want. Don BrysonNanettePort Townsend, WA
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On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 7:29 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located?
I want to be environmentally correct
Thanks
Capt Jim SV Pelican
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I have the 9' OceanSouth oars, but I wouldn't mind having 8-1/2 oars as they would be slightly easier to get in the lockers. I'd be looking to trade down or maybe just sellif anyone is in Oregon... On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 10:23:31 PM PST, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Thanks for this tip - Ocean South USA website, oars selection - pretty reasonable prices for 2-piece utility oars with some shape to the blade: https://oceansouth.us/product-category/oars-paddles-boathooks/oars/ Duckworks has XPL Oars, the very high end at 8-10X the cost, carbon fiber with basswood grips: https://duckworks.com/xpl-oars/ Duckworks used to sell oar ferrules for converting one-piece oars to two-piece but now they only appear to have smaller ferrules for double-bladed paddles. Might be big enough for smaller shaft oars? cheers, John On 1/6/24 20:39, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote:
The oars from Duckworks are really nice, I think they call them Xploars or something like that. Reasonably priced if a remember. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jan 6, 2024, at 8:10 PM, Don Bryson via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Jim, I use inexpensive 9’ oars from Ocean South. They are two-piece aluminum. 10’ oars are recommended but the longest oars from Ocean South are 9’. I think they work fine and are easy to stow below. I can send you photos and specs separately if you want. Don BrysonNanettePort Townsend, WA
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On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 7:29 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located?
I want to be environmentally correct
Thanks
Capt Jim SV Pelican
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Maybe 8-10 times the price, but still reasonable for the quality if you ask me. I would not remotely consider an $80 pair of oars as a reliable source of alternate propulsion for any of my boats, YMMV. I’m a rower though. 🤷♂️ www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jan 7, 2024, at 12:15 AM, Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I have the 9' OceanSouth oars, but I wouldn't mind having 8-1/2 oars as they would be slightly easier to get in the lockers. I'd be looking to trade down or maybe just sellif anyone is in Oregon...
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 10:23:31 PM PST, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Thanks for this tip - Ocean South USA website, oars selection - pretty reasonable prices for 2-piece utility oars with some shape to the blade: https://oceansouth.us/product-category/oars-paddles-boathooks/oars/
Duckworks has XPL Oars, the very high end at 8-10X the cost, carbon fiber with basswood grips: https://duckworks.com/xpl-oars/
Duckworks used to sell oar ferrules for converting one-piece oars to two-piece but now they only appear to have smaller ferrules for double-bladed paddles. Might be big enough for smaller shaft oars?
cheers, John
On 1/6/24 20:39, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote: The oars from Duckworks are really nice, I think they call them Xploars or something like that. Reasonably priced if a remember. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jan 6, 2024, at 8:10 PM, Don Bryson via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Jim, I use inexpensive 9’ oars from Ocean South. They are two-piece aluminum. 10’ oars are recommended but the longest oars from Ocean South are 9’. I think they work fine and are easy to stow below. I can send you photos and specs separately if you want. Don BrysonNanettePort Townsend, WA
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On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 7:29 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located?
I want to be environmentally correct
Thanks
Capt Jim SV Pelican
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FWIW, the oarlocks that came with the OceanSouth were garbage and broke right away, but I replaced them with west-marine brand. ...but the oars were good enough for me. They are fairly strong and lightweight. I believe they will sink however and I stuffed foam (pipe insulation) in mine to make sure they'd float if I dropped them. Probably should have used spray foam or something. Still looking to trade down from 9 foot to 8-1/2 foot if anyone is interested. On Sunday, January 7, 2024, 1:23:05 AM PST, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: Maybe 8-10 times the price, but still reasonable for the quality if you ask me. I would not remotely consider an $80 pair of oars as a reliable source of alternate propulsion for any of my boats, YMMV. I’m a rower though. 🤷♂️ www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jan 7, 2024, at 12:15 AM, Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I have the 9' OceanSouth oars, but I wouldn't mind having 8-1/2 oars as they would be slightly easier to get in the lockers. I'd be looking to trade down or maybe just sellif anyone is in Oregon...
On Saturday, January 6, 2024 at 10:23:31 PM PST, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Thanks for this tip - Ocean South USA website, oars selection - pretty reasonable prices for 2-piece utility oars with some shape to the blade: https://oceansouth.us/product-category/oars-paddles-boathooks/oars/
Duckworks has XPL Oars, the very high end at 8-10X the cost, carbon fiber with basswood grips:ou https://duckworks.com/xpl-oars/
Duckworks used to sell oar ferrules for converting one-piece oars to two-piece but now they only appear to have smaller ferrules for double-bladed paddles. Might be big enough for smaller shaft oars?
cheers, John
On 1/6/24 20:39, Rusty Knorr via montgomery_boats wrote: The oars from Duckworks are really nice, I think they call them Xploars or something like that. Reasonably priced if a remember. www.rustyknorr.weebly.com
On Jan 6, 2024, at 8:10 PM, Don Bryson via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi Jim, I use inexpensive 9’ oars from Ocean South. They are two-piece aluminum. 10’ oars are recommended but the longest oars from Ocean South are 9’. I think they work fine and are easy to stow below. I can send you photos and specs separately if you want. Don BrysonNanettePort Townsend, WA
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 7:29 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located?
I want to be environmentally correct
Thanks
Capt Jim SV Pelican
Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Hi all: I’m experimenting with a sculling oar off the back of the M15. Made a wooden oar lock that vise grips to the back. Only put it on when needed. I have at an oar that barely fits in the cabin but is out of the way when not in use. Decided to do this after the mishap in the SJs when the wind died, the motor died and the current was ripping. Needed a way to keep off the rocks. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
I have experimented also on my M17. I put one of those heavy duty nylon oar locks on the transom, opposite side from motor notch. Also bought a Scullmatix device, and a 4 ft wood handle (tamper replacement handle) from hardware store for inboard end. Main problem was I only had a 6 ft oar to experiment with. It proved that I could scull a bit in a marina in glassy conditions and move the boat (sloooowly). But oar was much too short for more than proof of concept. Much too high an angle just to get it in the water. I plan to look for an inexpensive two-piece flat blade oar at least 8 ft, 9 ft probably better, to try. Larry, what kind of blades on the oars you want to downsize from? Flat, or shaped? We're in the general vicinity of one another, I might want an oar, or maybe both, 9 footers I could probably row my M17 if in dire need... :-) cheers, John On 1/7/24 06:58, Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats wrote:
Hi all: I’m experimenting with a sculling oar off the back of the M15. Made a wooden oar lock that vise grips to the back. Only put it on when needed. I have at an oar that barely fits in the cabin but is out of the way when not in use. Decided to do this after the mishap in the SJs when the wind died, the motor died and the current was ripping. Needed a way to keep off the rocks.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Hi John, I think the blade is shaped. The problem with 9' is I like to have them in the lockers and the 9' ones are hard to get in fromthe cockpit on the m15...It might be easier on the m17. I'll send you an email off list.... On Sunday, January 7, 2024, 1:24:07 PM PST, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: I have experimented also on my M17. I put one of those heavy duty nylon oar locks on the transom, opposite side from motor notch. Also bought a Scullmatix device, and a 4 ft wood handle (tamper replacement handle) from hardware store for inboard end. Main problem was I only had a 6 ft oar to experiment with. It proved that I could scull a bit in a marina in glassy conditions and move the boat (sloooowly). But oar was much too short for more than proof of concept. Much too high an angle just to get it in the water. I plan to look for an inexpensive two-piece flat blade oar at least 8 ft, 9 ft probably better, to try. Larry, what kind of blades on the oars you want to downsize from? Flat, or shaped? We're in the general vicinity of one another, I might want an oar, or maybe both, 9 footers I could probably row my M17 if in dire need... :-) cheers, John On 1/7/24 06:58, Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats wrote:
Hi all: I’m experimenting with a sculling oar off the back of the M15. Made a wooden oar lock that vise grips to the back. Only put it on when needed. I have at an oar that barely fits in the cabin but is out of the way when not in use. Decided to do this after the mishap in the SJs when the wind died, the motor died and the current was ripping. Needed a way to keep off the rocks.
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
Peter How many knts can you achieve. Where did you get your oar ? Thanks Jim S Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2024 6:58:26 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Rusty Knorr <rustyinafrica@yahoo.com>; Peter Zimowsky <rapidz@mac.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M15 oars Hi all: I’m experimenting with a sculling oar off the back of the M15. Made a wooden oar lock that vise grips to the back. Only put it on when needed. I have at an oar that barely fits in the cabin but is out of the way when not in use. Decided to do this after the mishap in the SJs when the wind died, the motor died and the current was ripping. Needed a way to keep off the rocks. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
Thanks Don Any pictures or specs you could send would be much appreciated BTY where do you sit? Jim S Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Don Bryson via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2024 8:09:41 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Don Bryson <dbryson59@yahoo.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M15 oars Hi Jim, I use inexpensive 9’ oars from Ocean South. They are two-piece aluminum. 10’ oars are recommended but the longest oars from Ocean South are 9’. I think they work fine and are easy to stow below. I can send you photos and specs separately if you want. Don BrysonNanettePort Townsend, WA Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 7:29 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote: Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located? I want to be environmentally correct Thanks Capt Jim SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
Here are a few photos. I have specs - mostly the distance from the transom. I sit on a piece of 1x6 set across the cockpit near the companion way. Don Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 11:27 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote: Thanks Don Any pictures or specs you could send would be much appreciated BTY where do you sit? Jim S Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: Don Bryson via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2024 8:09:41 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: Don Bryson <dbryson59@yahoo.com> Subject: M_Boats: Re: M15 oars Hi Jim, I use inexpensive 9’ oars from Ocean South. They are two-piece aluminum. 10’ oars are recommended but the longest oars from Ocean South are 9’. I think they work fine and are easy to stow below. I can send you photos and specs separately if you want. Don BrysonNanettePort Townsend, WA Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Saturday, January 6, 2024, 7:29 PM, Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote: Any of you skippers using oars on M15? How long are they? Where do you sit? Where are oar locks located? I want to be environmentally correct Thanks Capt Jim SV Pelican Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
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