Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts Dale Nummi M17 LENTO KALA Superior, WI
Oops nummij@aol.com\ Dale Nummi M17 LENTO KALA Superior, WI -----Original Message----- From: nummij@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sat, Mar 26, 2011 4:33 pm Subject: M_Boats: San Juan islands i I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen or being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the ight direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at ashington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will e appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you ant to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. hank you all for the great posts Dale Nummi 17 ENTO KALA uperior, WI ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide tables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of info to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve ----- Original Message ---- From: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:33:02 PM Subject: M_Boats: San Juan islands Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts Dale Nummi M17 LENTO KALA Superior, WI _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Tide tables are nice but they don't tell you which way the currents are flowing in the islands, nor how fast. The Current Atlas does. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Steve Fitch wrote:
let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide tables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of info to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve
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Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts
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Does anyone know if there is something equivilent to the Current Atlas on the east coast?? Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Tide tables are nice but they don't tell you which way the currents are flowing in the islands, nor how fast. The Current Atlas does. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Steve Fitch wrote:
let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide tables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of info to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve
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Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts
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Joe, The nearest thing I have found is the Eldridge pilot guide that covers the East coast from Maine to SC. The only detailed current maps are for the high current and traffic areas around Woods Hole, Cape Code and the Islands and the NY east river area. It has 1 current chart for the Chesapeake that shows max flood and ebb. Everything else is just tide tables. I have heard that raceing crowd on the Cheasapeake has found some detailed current charts for the Bay but I have never seen them. You might check with the racing crowd down your way. Thanks Doug ________________________________ From: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 5:53:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Does anyone know if there is something equivilent to the Current Atlas on the east coast?? Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Tide tables are nice but they don't tell you which way the currents are flowing in the islands, nor how fast. The Current Atlas does. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Steve Fitch wrote:
let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide
tables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of
info to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve
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Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen
for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the
right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will
be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you
want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts
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yes there is a current atlas for the San Juans available in Anacortes. Better yet ask anyone with Nobeltec and they can give you current information. When you decide on some dates I can tell you exactly what to expect and where as I am very familiar with currents after sailing the San Juans for the last 9 years. Some auxullary power will be essential because you will have some passes to go through without wind and they can run up to 4-5knts. Steve Fitch ----- Original Message ---- From: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 5:53:10 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Does anyone know if there is something equivilent to the Current Atlas on the east coast?? Joe SeaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Tide tables are nice but they don't tell you which way the currents are flowing in the islands, nor how fast. The Current Atlas does. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Steve Fitch wrote: > let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide > tables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of > info to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> > To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com > Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:33:02 PM > Subject: M_Boats: San Juan islands > > > Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen > for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the > right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at > Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will > be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you > want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. > Thank you all for the great posts > > Dale Nummi > M17 > LENTO KALA > Superior, WI > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats > > When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Great we are planing on sailing August 22nd to September 5th about. Thanks Dale -----Original Message----- From: Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 29, 2011 12:29 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands yes there is a current atlas for the San Juans available in Anacortes. Better et ask anyone with Nobeltec and they can give you current information. When ou decide on some dates I can tell you exactly what to expect and where as I am very familiar with currents after sailing the San Juans for the last 9 years. ome auxullary power will be essential because you will have some passes to go hrough without wind and they can run up to 4-5knts. Steve Fitch ---- Original Message ---- rom: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> o: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Mon, March 28, 2011 5:53:10 PM ubject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Does anyone know if there is something equivilent to the Current Atlas on the ast coast?? oe eaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Tide tables are nice but they don't tell you which way the currents are lowing in the islands, nor how fast. The Current Atlas does. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Steve Fitch wrote:
let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get ide tables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots f info to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve
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Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was hosen for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help ill be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If ou want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts
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OK will get you the best times to leave Anacortes towards Orcas and give you the current info and some suggestions to where to stop on the way. There are three or four great coves on the way- Eagle or Pelican which are 2hrs out and Spencer spit which is about 4-5 hrs. out depending on current. Also give me the best guess as to how many boats will be involved. Steve ----- Original Message ---- From: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 4:07:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Great we are planing on sailing August 22nd to September 5th about. Thanks Dale -----Original Message----- From: Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 29, 2011 12:29 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands yes there is a current atlas for the San Juans available in Anacortes. Better et ask anyone with Nobeltec and they can give you current information. When ou decide on some dates I can tell you exactly what to expect and where as I am very familiar with currents after sailing the San Juans for the last 9 years. ome auxullary power will be essential because you will have some passes to go hrough without wind and they can run up to 4-5knts. Steve Fitch ---- Original Message ---- rom: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> o: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Mon, March 28, 2011 5:53:10 PM ubject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Does anyone know if there is something equivilent to the Current Atlas on the ast coast?? oe eaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Tide tables are nice but they don't tell you which way the currents are lowing in the islands, nor how fast. The Current Atlas does. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Steve Fitch wrote: > let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get ide > tables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots f > info to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve
----- Original Message ---- From: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:33:02 PM Subject: M_Boats: San Juan islands
Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was
hosen > for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the > right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at
Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help ill > be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If ou > want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts
Dale Nummi M17 LENTO KALA Superior, WI
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Just one unless I win the lottery:) Dale -----Original Message----- From: Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, Apr 4, 2011 5:22 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands OK will get you the best times to leave Anacortes towards Orcas and give you the current info and some suggestions to where to stop on the way. There are three or four great coves on the way- Eagle or Pelican which are 2hrs out and Spencer spit which is about 4-5 hrs. out depending on current. Also give me the best guess as to how many boats will be involved. Steve ----- Original Message ---- From: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Fri, April 1, 2011 4:07:32 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Great we are planing on sailing August 22nd to September 5th about. Thanks Dale -----Original Message----- From: Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Mar 29, 2011 12:29 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands yes there is a current atlas for the San Juans available in Anacortes. Better et ask anyone with Nobeltec and they can give you current information. When ou decide on some dates I can tell you exactly what to expect and where as I am very familiar with currents after sailing the San Juans for the last 9 years. ome auxullary power will be essential because you will have some passes to go hrough without wind and they can run up to 4-5knts. Steve Fitch ---- Original Message ---- rom: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> o: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> ent: Mon, March 28, 2011 5:53:10 PM ubject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Does anyone know if there is something equivilent to the Current Atlas on the ast coast?? oe eaFrog M17 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary M Hyde To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Monday, March 28, 2011 4:37 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands Tide tables are nice but they don't tell you which way the currents are lowing in the islands, nor how fast. The Current Atlas does. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Steve Fitch wrote:
let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get
ide
tables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots
f
info to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve
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To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com
Sent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:33:02 PM
Subject: M_Boats: San Juan islands
Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was
hosen
for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in
the
right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at
Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help
ill
be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If
ou
want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way.
Thank you all for the great posts
Dale Nummi
M17
LENTO KALA
Superior, WI
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dale: a tide table isn't enough as it will only tell you heights and time, NOT current. many marine GPS units have the tide tables (my GPS 76map does for example). for tides and _currents_ you want - Current Atlas: Juan de Fuca Strait to/a Strait of Georgia by The Canadian Hydrographic Service to use the above get the yearly Washburne's Tables plan your passage to use the tide in your favor, or be slack. tidal range is usually 10 to 15 feet. in general the greater the difference between low and high tide the greater the current. the _pattern_ is for the wind to build in the afternoon. can be strong in the afternoon into early evening on strait of georgia, rosario strait, haro strait, boundary pass and strait of juan de fuca. wind is usually from the north during good weather. poor weather brings southerly winds. again ... usually. wind is almost always westerly in strait of juan de fuca. depending on the pressure difference between georgia and juan de fuca straits the wind may blow north or south in rosario & haro straits and boundary pass. when in the islands (ie, south of the strait of georgia, north of juan de fuca, east of haro strait and west of rosario strait) the winds can be variable: blowing 20 and then around the point dead calm. i've needed to motor in the islands when a gale is blowing on stait of juan de fuca. NOTE: the above description does not include sucia as this northern island is best seen as being part of the south portion of strait of georgia. when crossing rosario be aware of how the current will set your course over ground. be aware of the sea state as a contrary wind to the tide can make for rough seas. tide rip locations are well known and noted on many charts and in the guides below. best books on the area - * Exploring the San Juan and Gulf Islands: Cruising Paradise of the Pacific Northwest (2nd ed), by Don Douglass and Reanne Hemingway-Douglass (detailed and the best of the three) * A Cruising Guide to Puget Sound and the San Juan Islands: Olympia to Port Angeles by Migael Scherer * A Dreamspeaker Cruising Guide: Vol. 4 - The San Juan Islands, 1st Ed. by Anne Yeadon-Jones and Laurence Yeadon-Jones some like the yearly (i'm not a fan) - Waggoner Cruising Guide 2011: The Complete Boating Reference by Robert Hale (waggoner guide is good for more up-to-date information on anchorages, tourist stuff and marinas; not so good on technical information on traveling the local waterways.) :: Dave Scobie :: been sailing the san juan since the late 1970s :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
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Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts
Dale Nummi M17 LENTO KALA Superior, WI
Nice job, Dave! I've been there 5-6 times and still didn't know all that. ~~~_/)~~~Gary Hyde 2005 M17 #637 sailboat 'Hydeaway 2' On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:55 AM, W David Scobie wrote:
dale:
a tide table isn't enough as it will only tell you heights and time, NOT current. many marine GPS units have the tide tables (my GPS 76map does for example).
for tides and _currents_ you want -
Current Atlas: Juan de Fuca Strait to/a Strait of Georgia by The Canadian Hydrographic Service
to use the above get the yearly Washburne's Tables
plan your passage to use the tide in your favor, or be slack.
tidal range is usually 10 to 15 feet. in general the greater the difference between low and high tide the greater the current.
the _pattern_ is for the wind to build in the afternoon. can be strong in the afternoon into early evening on strait of georgia, rosario strait, haro strait, boundary pass and strait of juan de fuca.
wind is usually from the north during good weather. poor weather brings southerly winds. again ... usually.
wind is almost always westerly in strait of juan de fuca.
depending on the pressure difference between georgia and juan de fuca straits the wind may blow north or south in rosario & haro straits and boundary pass.
when in the islands (ie, south of the strait of georgia, north of juan de fuca, east of haro strait and west of rosario strait) the winds can be variable: blowing 20 and then around the point dead calm. i've needed to motor in the islands when a gale is blowing on stait of juan de fuca. NOTE: the above description does not include sucia as this northern island is best seen as being part of the south portion of strait of georgia.
when crossing rosario be aware of how the current will set your course over ground. be aware of the sea state as a contrary wind to the tide can make for rough seas.
tide rip locations are well known and noted on many charts and in the guides below.
best books on the area -
* Exploring the San Juan and Gulf Islands: Cruising Paradise of the Pacific Northwest (2nd ed), by Don Douglass and Reanne Hemingway-Douglass (detailed and the best of the three)
* A Cruising Guide to Puget Sound and the San Juan Islands: Olympia to Port Angeles by Migael Scherer
* A Dreamspeaker Cruising Guide: Vol. 4 - The San Juan Islands, 1st Ed. by Anne Yeadon-Jones and Laurence Yeadon-Jones
some like the yearly (i'm not a fan) -
Waggoner Cruising Guide 2011: The Complete Boating Reference by Robert Hale (waggoner guide is good for more up-to-date information on anchorages, tourist stuff and marinas; not so good on technical information on traveling the local waterways.)
:: Dave Scobie :: been sailing the san juan since the late 1970s :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
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Hi I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen for being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at Washington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will be appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you want to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. Thank you all for the great posts
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I am working on dates and places. We might need some suggestions when we have more info. Thank you Dale -----Original Message----- From: Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:02 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide ables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of nfo to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve ----- Original Message ---- rom: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> o: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com ent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:33:02 PM ubject: M_Boats: San Juan islands i I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen or being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at ashington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will e appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you ant to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. hank you all for the great posts Dale Nummi 17 ENTO KALA uperior, WI ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
I can also tell you how and where to see Orca's --took me 4 years to figure them out but now hit about 50%--steve ----- Original Message ---- From: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 2:40:30 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands I am working on dates and places. We might need some suggestions when we have more info. Thank you Dale -----Original Message----- From: Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:02 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide ables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of nfo to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve ----- Original Message ---- rom: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> o: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com ent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:33:02 PM ubject: M_Boats: San Juan islands i I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen or being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at ashington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will e appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you ant to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. hank you all for the great posts Dale Nummi 17 ENTO KALA uperior, WI ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
One last thought--when you give me the dates and destinations I'll be able to tell exactly when to leave to take advantage of the tides through the different passes as I discovered my backup Nobeltec data is still up to date. Try to plan your trip to hit during Crab Season. Go to Washington State Dept. natural Resources for Crab season info. Steve ----- Original Message ---- From: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 2:40:30 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands I am working on dates and places. We might need some suggestions when we have more info. Thank you Dale -----Original Message----- From: Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:02 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide ables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of nfo to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve ----- Original Message ---- rom: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> o: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com ent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:33:02 PM ubject: M_Boats: San Juan islands i I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen or being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at ashington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will e appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you ant to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. hank you all for the great posts Dale Nummi 17 ENTO KALA uperior, WI ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet! _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Just received notice of CHS Tides and Currents for 2011. May be helpful for those travelling to the Cdn Gulf Islands. http://www.cartes.gc.ca/publications/ctct-tmcc-eng.asp On 3/29/11, Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> wrote:
One last thought--when you give me the dates and destinations I'll be able to tell exactly when to leave to take advantage of the tides through the different passes as I discovered my backup Nobeltec data is still up to date. Try to plan your trip to hit during Crab Season. Go to Washington State Dept. natural Resources for Crab season info. Steve
----- Original Message ---- From: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Mon, March 28, 2011 2:40:30 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands
I am working on dates and places. We might need some suggestions when we have more info.
Thank you Dale
-----Original Message----- From: Steve Fitch <svfitches@yahoo.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 28, 2011 3:02 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: San Juan islands
let me know when your going and what boats will be included. You can get tide ables free at Ace hardware and Westsail in Anacortes. I can give you lots of nfo to help your trip if you would like. Let me know. Steve
----- Original Message ---- rom: "nummij@aol.com" <nummij@aol.com> o: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com ent: Sat, March 26, 2011 2:33:02 PM ubject: M_Boats: San Juan islands
i I am going sailing with some friends in the San Juan Islands. I was chosen or being responsible for knowing the tides. I am hoping you can point me in the right direction for a tide tables book with currents. We are launching at ashington park in Anacortes, WA, going to Orcas Island. Any and all help will e appreciated. I can navigate but I have never had to deal with tides. If you ant to contact me off the list numij@aol.com is the best way. hank you all for the great posts Dale Nummi 17 ENTO KALA uperior, WI
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