Hello All, Am now well past the 80 year mark but intend to keep sailing my beloved M-15. To do so in safety I would like to install a furler which would carry a genoa,allowing me to shorten sail as the weather dictates while still maintaining proper sail shape. Do any of you have experience with a furler that meets my requirements? How large a genoa can I expect to carry.? On some boats like the Siren, one will find a swivel and drum furler but those arrangements don’t allow one to lessen the sail area while maintaining an aerodynamic shape. Any advice or pictures would be appreciated. At present am using a 128% hank on jib with a downhaul which of course requires me to go forward to change sails. I may be old ,but not (or no longer) stupid.Thank You. RTH.
Hi Robert, I don't know if it will fit an M15, but I installed a CDI furler on my M17. The secret of maintaining sail shape is having a luff pad whose thickness varies along the luff. I have an Elliot Patterson 135% genoa which maintains it's shape well as I reduce sail. I'm not quite 80 yet, but not far off, and I wouldn't sail without it. I try not to leave the cockpit after I've left the dock. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Tuesday, September 24, 2013, Robert Hall wrote:
Hello All, Am now well past the 80 year mark but intend to keep sailing my beloved M-15. To do so in safety I would like to install a furler which would carry a genoa,allowing me to shorten sail as the weather dictates while still maintaining proper sail shape. Do any of you have experience with a furler that meets my requirements? How large a genoa can I expect to carry.? On some boats like the Siren, one will find a swivel and drum furler but those arrangements don’t allow one to lessen the sail area while maintaining an aerodynamic shape. Any advice or pictures would be appreciated. At present am using a 128% hank on jib with a downhaul which of course requires me to go forward to change sails. I may be old ,but not (or no longer) stupid.Thank You. RTH.
Hi Rick, Thanks for your input. I know that CDI has a comprehensive manual,but any tips you may have regarding your installation experience will be welcome. All the best.RTH. -----Original Message----- From: Rick Davies Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 6:59 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furling Foresail Hi Robert, I don't know if it will fit an M15, but I installed a CDI furler on my M17. The secret of maintaining sail shape is having a luff pad whose thickness varies along the luff. I have an Elliot Patterson 135% genoa which maintains it's shape well as I reduce sail. I'm not quite 80 yet, but not far off, and I wouldn't sail without it. I try not to leave the cockpit after I've left the dock. Rick M17 #633 Lynne L On Tuesday, September 24, 2013, Robert Hall wrote:
Hello All, Am now well past the 80 year mark but intend to keep sailing my beloved M-15. To do so in safety I would like to install a furler which would carry a genoa,allowing me to shorten sail as the weather dictates while still maintaining proper sail shape. Do any of you have experience with a furler that meets my requirements? How large a genoa can I expect to carry.? On some boats like the Siren, one will find a swivel and drum furler but those arrangements donÂ’t allow one to lessen the sail area while maintaining an aerodynamic shape. Any advice or pictures would be appreciated. At present am using a 128% hank on jib with a downhaul which of course requires me to go forward to change sails. I may be old ,but not (or no longer) stupid.Thank You. RTH.
Hi Robert, good for you for sailing about at 80+! I moved to a CDI roller furler this season on my M-23 specifically so my wife (and I) would not experience the terror of me going forward is big seas to change jibs down or do work dousing the sail. There are other good furlers but I am very pleased with the CDI (it is the only one that Bacon Sails in Annapolis carried, so I went with it). One of the things I love about it is is how easy and quick it is to get going out of the dock and to douse the jib coming back into port. I will not go back to hank ons. All the best in your consideration of sailing from the cockpit. I recommend it! Robbin On 9/24/2013 10:25 PM, Robert Hall wrote:
Hello All, Am now well past the 80 year mark but intend to keep sailing my beloved M-15. To do so in safety I would like to install a furler which would carry a genoa,allowing me to shorten sail as the weather dictates while still maintaining proper sail shape. Do any of you have experience with a furler that meets my requirements? How large a genoa can I expect to carry.? On some boats like the Siren, one will find a swivel and drum furler but those arrangements don’t allow one to lessen the sail area while maintaining an aerodynamic shape. Any advice or pictures would be appreciated. At present am using a 128% hank on jib with a downhaul which of course requires me to go forward to change sails. I may be old ,but not (or no longer) stupid.Thank You. RTH.
Thank You Robbin. Although the M- 15 is a small boat,I am invariably alone and therefore wish to keep safe and lighten the load of a solo sailor.Cheers RTH. -----Original Message----- From: Robbin Roddewig Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 9:16 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furling Foresail Hi Robert, good for you for sailing about at 80+! I moved to a CDI roller furler this season on my M-23 specifically so my wife (and I) would not experience the terror of me going forward is big seas to change jibs down or do work dousing the sail. There are other good furlers but I am very pleased with the CDI (it is the only one that Bacon Sails in Annapolis carried, so I went with it). One of the things I love about it is is how easy and quick it is to get going out of the dock and to douse the jib coming back into port. I will not go back to hank ons. All the best in your consideration of sailing from the cockpit. I recommend it! Robbin On 9/24/2013 10:25 PM, Robert Hall wrote:
Hello All, Am now well past the 80 year mark but intend to keep sailing my beloved M-15. To do so in safety I would like to install a furler which would carry a genoa,allowing me to shorten sail as the weather dictates while still maintaining proper sail shape. Do any of you have experience with a furler that meets my requirements? How large a genoa can I expect to carry.? On some boats like the Siren, one will find a swivel and drum furler but those arrangements don’t allow one to lessen the sail area while maintaining an aerodynamic shape. Any advice or pictures would be appreciated. At present am using a 128% hank on jib with a downhaul which of course requires me to go forward to change sails. I may be old ,but not (or no longer) stupid.Thank You. RTH.
I put a CDI FF1 furler on my M15 over 10 years ago. It still is working great. It tales a little more time to rig since the whole assembly needs to be taken on/off the mast. The furler is just a couple inches longer the the outside deck curve, so I just attach it to the stern cleat, chain plates and bow fitting. It trailers just fine that way. I wouldn't go so far as to say the sail shape is optimal throughout the range, but the benefits outweigh a couple of creases when reefed. At least in my opinion... My boat is currently in storage, but I could take a few pictures of the components if you are interested. Don M15-248 On 9/24/2013 7:25 PM, Robert Hall wrote:
Hello All, Am now well past the 80 year mark but intend to keep sailing my beloved M-15. To do so in safety I would like to install a furler which would carry a genoa,allowing me to shorten sail as the weather dictates while still maintaining proper sail shape. Do any of you have experience with a furler that meets my requirements? How large a genoa can I expect to carry.? On some boats like the Siren, one will find a swivel and drum furler but those arrangements don’t allow one to lessen the sail area while maintaining an aerodynamic shape. Any advice or pictures would be appreciated. At present am using a 128% hank on jib with a downhaul which of course requires me to go forward to change sails. I may be old ,but not (or no longer) stupid.Thank You. RTH.
Hi Don, Thank you for your speedy response. I keep my boat in a slip, so only trailer a few miles twice a year. If you made the installation yourself have you any tips from your experience as how to go about it? What size is your genoa and if buying again would you change size? What sail maker did you purchase the sail from? Pictures would be a god send and the more the better. .I am faced with getting a new fore stay with endings and turnbuckle as required in the CDI FF1 manual and need to know exact length of the forestay and how it attaches to the mast.I know this is a lot to ask,but your advice will be greatly valued. I am in Canada and expect to get a few more Monty days in before the snow flies. Thanks RTH. -----Original Message----- From: Don Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 10:07 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Furling Foresail I put a CDI FF1 furler on my M15 over 10 years ago. It still is working great. It tales a little more time to rig since the whole assembly needs to be taken on/off the mast. The furler is just a couple inches longer the the outside deck curve, so I just attach it to the stern cleat, chain plates and bow fitting. It trailers just fine that way. I wouldn't go so far as to say the sail shape is optimal throughout the range, but the benefits outweigh a couple of creases when reefed. At least in my opinion... My boat is currently in storage, but I could take a few pictures of the components if you are interested. Don M15-248 On 9/24/2013 7:25 PM, Robert Hall wrote:
Hello All, Am now well past the 80 year mark but intend to keep sailing my beloved M-15. To do so in safety I would like to install a furler which would carry a genoa,allowing me to shorten sail as the weather dictates while still maintaining proper sail shape. Do any of you have experience with a furler that meets my requirements? How large a genoa can I expect to carry.? On some boats like the Siren, one will find a swivel and drum furler but those arrangements don’t allow one to lessen the sail area while maintaining an aerodynamic shape. Any advice or pictures would be appreciated. At present am using a 128% hank on jib with a downhaul which of course requires me to go forward to change sails. I may be old ,but not (or no longer) stupid.Thank You. RTH.
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