I am installing a new Dwyer mast tabernacle on a Montgomery 15. If I use the existing holes, it places the mast 1/2 inch forward of the original location. Does anybody know will this be a problem for balance eg weather helm or shroud length? Dan --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
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I am installing a new Dwyer mast tabernacle on a Montgomery 15. If I use the existing holes, it places the mast 1/2 inch forward of the original location. Does anybody know will this be a problem for balance eg weather helm or shroud length? Dan
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It wil increase the mast rake a trifle which may be a good thing. Dick
Dan- I wouldn't worry about 1/2" Jerry jerrymontgomery.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lane" <rqlhgl@ieee.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Tabernacle
Dan Hall wrote:
I am installing a new Dwyer mast tabernacle on a Montgomery 15. If I use the existing holes, it places the mast 1/2 inch forward of the original location. Does anybody know will this be a problem for balance eg weather helm or shroud length? Dan
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It wil increase the mast rake a trifle which may be a good thing. Dick
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While cruising through Colonial Beach, VA, Sunday, 7/10, in my new tow vehicle (2002 GMC Sierra, 4.8 V-8, think this will be adequate for an M-15?), encountered a Montgomery? (15, I believe, but not sure) at the town's public launch. "Gypsy Rose" had Florida registration and FL tags on the trailer. Owner wasn't in sight, so I jumped out to look at the hull number. That just confused things, as this hull number started with digits, not letters, and then ended with letters, so I assume it's a rather old boat in an old system. No paper and pen, and all I remember of the HIN is "383xx-xx71RMM". Anyone have any ideas? Boat also had the extruded aluminum toe-rail, did not have an outboard cut-out like older 17s, and, of course, a Montgomery's lapstrake hull. Did not examine further as I don't like to mess around other people's stuff. -- John Tyner M-15 "Chimpanzee" -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+tynerjr=gmpexpress.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+tynerjr=gmpexpress.net@mailman.xmission .com]On Behalf Of jerry Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:54 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Tabernacle Dan- I wouldn't worry about 1/2" Jerry jerrymontgomery.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Lane" <rqlhgl@ieee.org> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 2:51 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Tabernacle
Dan Hall wrote:
I am installing a new Dwyer mast tabernacle on a Montgomery 15. If I use the existing holes, it places the mast 1/2 inch forward of the original location. Does anybody know will this be a problem for balance eg weather helm or shroud length? Dan
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It wil increase the mast rake a trifle which may be a good thing. Dick
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Saturday I also spotted a Montgomery, a 15, hull #238 IIRC. No stripes on the hull, looked a lot like Miss T (except a 15) but she did have unique multi-colored sails. It lives just across Sandusky Bay from BuscaBrisas, so now that I know it's around I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Sailed by apparently a man and two boys, who seemed to be having fun! Sunday, Busca was engaged in some survey work. Two other Great Lakes Cruising Club members and myself set out in the morning across the bay to Bay Point, a large sand bar that blocks most of the entrance to the bay, where we started motoring up and down the columns of a grid, recording soundings at intervals. The bar has grown and shifted a lot since I first started sailing the area and the commercial charts are quite out of date. As a testimony, when we were nearly done with the east side of the bar, a Tartan 33 grounded heavily on the hard sand. After a while, we went over to see if we could be of assistance. After much circling around, we took their anchor out the length of the rode for them so they could kedge themselves off. All they had to winch with were the Genoa winches and the two older gents just weren't able to winch the boat off, so eventually they called Towboat US. At this point, there was so much chop from powerboat wake that it was too rough to resume our work in the shoals, so we had to call it a day with plans to complete the work as soon as we can get a suitable day. After the data is all compiled, a drawing of the entrance will be made and it will be included in the next harbor report for the bay, one of thousands of harbor reports that the club maintains for the entire Great Lakes. I have an entire shelf in a bookcase dedicated to nothing but these harbor reports. Bob G., the seniormost member of the three of us, explained the method he wanted to use to collect the data, so I steered the course, he recorded the depths, and Maggie watched the gps to tell me if I were to steer to port or starboard and Bob when to note the depth. It was not too easy trying to steer following the course exactly and there seemed to be a current that was pushing us eastward. I'd like to experiment with OziExplorer/GPS interface and try recording depths at random spaces while motoring or sailing around. If I can figure out a way to do it single-handed, then that would go a long way towards allowing me to contribute to more harbor reports. Tod M17 #408 BuscaBrisas
Tod, I've kept a spreadsheet on M15 owners and it shows 238 is (or, most likely, was) named "Amnesia" out of Tempe, AZ. Bill -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 6:23 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: And Yet Another M-sighting Saturday I also spotted a Montgomery, a 15, hull #238 IIRC. No stripes on the hull, looked a lot like Miss T (except a 15) but she did have unique multi-colored sails. It lives just across Sandusky Bay from BuscaBrisas, so now that I know it's around I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Sailed by apparently a man and two boys, who seemed to be having fun! Sunday, Busca was engaged in some survey work. Two other Great Lakes Cruising Club members and myself set out in the morning across the bay to Bay Point, a large sand bar that blocks most of the entrance to the bay, where we started motoring up and down the columns of a grid, recording soundings at intervals. The bar has grown and shifted a lot since I first started sailing the area and the commercial charts are quite out of date. As a testimony, when we were nearly done with the east side of the bar, a Tartan 33 grounded heavily on the hard sand. After a while, we went over to see if we could be of assistance. After much circling around, we took their anchor out the length of the rode for them so they could kedge themselves off. All they had to winch with were the Genoa winches and the two older gents just weren't able to winch the boat off, so eventually they called Towboat US. At this point, there was so much chop from powerboat wake that it was too rough to resume our work in the shoals, so we had to call it a day with plans to complete the work as soon as we can get a suitable day. After the data is all compiled, a drawing of the entrance will be made and it will be included in the next harbor report for the bay, one of thousands of harbor reports that the club maintains for the entire Great Lakes. I have an entire shelf in a bookcase dedicated to nothing but these harbor reports. Bob G., the seniormost member of the three of us, explained the method he wanted to use to collect the data, so I steered the course, he recorded the depths, and Maggie watched the gps to tell me if I were to steer to port or starboard and Bob when to note the depth. It was not too easy trying to steer following the course exactly and there seemed to be a current that was pushing us eastward. I'd like to experiment with OziExplorer/GPS interface and try recording depths at random spaces while motoring or sailing around. If I can figure out a way to do it single-handed, then that would go a long way towards allowing me to contribute to more harbor reports. Tod M17 #408 BuscaBrisas _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Bill Can you send me a copy of your spread sheet? ikooris@comcast.net Thanks Irv On Jul 11, 2005, at 9:59 PM, William B. Riker wrote:
Tod,
I've kept a spreadsheet on M15 owners and it shows 238 is (or, most likely, was) named "Amnesia" out of Tempe, AZ.
Bill
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats- bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of htmills@bright.net Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 6:23 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: M_Boats: And Yet Another M-sighting
Saturday I also spotted a Montgomery, a 15, hull #238 IIRC. No stripes on the hull, looked a lot like Miss T (except a 15) but she did have unique multi-colored sails. It lives just across Sandusky Bay from BuscaBrisas, so now that I know it's around I'll have to keep an eye out for it. Sailed by apparently a man and two boys, who seemed to be having fun!
Sunday, Busca was engaged in some survey work. Two other Great Lakes Cruising Club members and myself set out in the morning across the bay to Bay Point, a large sand bar that blocks most of the entrance to the bay, where we started motoring up and down the columns of a grid, recording soundings at intervals. The bar has grown and shifted a lot since I first started sailing the area and the commercial charts are quite out of date.
As a testimony, when we were nearly done with the east side of the bar, a Tartan 33 grounded heavily on the hard sand. After a while, we went over to see if we could be of assistance. After much circling around, we took their anchor out the length of the rode for them so they could kedge themselves off. All they had to winch with were the Genoa winches and the two older gents just weren't able to winch the boat off, so eventually they called Towboat US.
At this point, there was so much chop from powerboat wake that it was too rough to resume our work in the shoals, so we had to call it a day with plans to complete the work as soon as we can get a suitable day.
After the data is all compiled, a drawing of the entrance will be made and it will be included in the next harbor report for the bay, one of thousands of harbor reports that the club maintains for the entire Great Lakes. I have an entire shelf in a bookcase dedicated to nothing but these harbor reports.
Bob G., the seniormost member of the three of us, explained the method he wanted to use to collect the data, so I steered the course, he recorded the depths, and Maggie watched the gps to tell me if I were to steer to port or starboard and Bob when to note the depth. It was not too easy trying to steer following the course exactly and there seemed to be a current that was pushing us eastward.
I'd like to experiment with OziExplorer/GPS interface and try recording depths at random spaces while motoring or sailing around. If I can figure out a way to do it single-handed, then that would go a long way towards allowing me to contribute to more harbor reports.
Tod M17 #408 BuscaBrisas
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Okay, Bill, I'm probably mis-remembering the number. I expect I'll see the boat again. The man said he had just recently bought the boat from someone at Alum Creek, here in Ohio. I'll have to write down the MSOG web page and pass it over to him so he can get on this list (if he's not already). Tod -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+htmills=bright.net@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of William B. Riker Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 8:59 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: RE: M_Boats: And Yet Another M-sighting Tod, I've kept a spreadsheet on M15 owners and it shows 238 is (or, most likely, was) named "Amnesia" out of Tempe, AZ. Bill
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