Does anyone know the Portsmouth yardstick handicap numbers for an M-17.? I looked it up on the web but no info on how to do it.? Just the formulas with very little explanation. We had a great time racing. My wife says she feels twenty again. We got better and better as the weekend went along and the last race we were respectable.? Had a little adventure Sunday morning as the starboard outer shroud pin came out as we were setting the jib.? Wife brought us into the wind , I dropped all the sails she got the outboard down and started.? And as luck would have it I found the pin against the toe rail.? I got a new safety ring and repined the shroud and we were "just a bit" late starting the first race.? The last race of the weekend we were in great shape and misjudged the last buoy and touched it so had to make a penalty 360 and finished well back.? Everyone said we were doing great for our first race with so little previous sailing experience.? So put the boat on the trailer had a burger and beer at the Pub and home tired with big smiles all around. At your service Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55 208 249 0538
Sounds like fun. The racing part anyway. I had looked into racing our M17 with the local hot shots....but there is some kind of rule restriction preventing me. Said something about minimum length. I think perhaps they thought the 17 did not have a ballast keel. Whatever. I personally think the boat was not worth enough to be allowed in. I lost a clevis pin strbd shroud on my previous boat. I was close hauled on a strbd tack at the time. Result, beautiful Spruce mast in many pieces but nobody was hurt. I too found the pin....but not the ring.......on the side deck just forward of a scupper. I normally check split rings on pins before going out, but not this day. I had checked the previous day out. The only thought I had as to why a well set split ring would come out of a clevis pin is kids play around my boat all the time.....could have been just the right thing to noodle with. Funniest part of that story was my passenger that afternoon was a guy that drove 5 hours up from Vancouver to buy the boat. He paid for it and I had taken him out to show him 'the ropes'. What a day. The boat did not like him. Over the winter I made a new mast, re-did the rig and ended up selling her to a nice lady from California.....who drove all the way up here to pick her up. The boat liked her. Tim in Kelowna .....where all the mad 2000hp super boat owners finally all went home. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of larrypegg@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:06 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Handicaping Does anyone know the Portsmouth yardstick handicap numbers for an M-17.? I looked it up on the web but no info on how to do it.? Just the formulas with very little explanation. We had a great time racing. My wife says she feels twenty again. We got better and better as the weekend went along and the last race we were respectable.? Had a little adventure Sunday morning as the starboard outer shroud pin came out as we were setting the jib.? Wife brought us into the wind , I dropped all the sails she got the outboard down and started.? And as luck would have it I found the pin against the toe rail.? I got a new safety ring and repined the shroud and we were "just a bit" late starting the first race.? The last race of the weekend we were in great shape and misjudged the last buoy and touched it so had to make a penalty 360 and finished well back.? Everyone said we were doing great for our first race with so little previous sailing experience.? So put the boat on the trailer had a burger and beer at the Pub and home tired with big smiles all around. At your service Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55 208 249 0538 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1661 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 4:58 AM
I'm changing all my pins to bolts with safety wire. I have been to a local machine shop to have them made of HS stainless steel.? I don't want this to happen half way up the sound or in some other Challenging part of the world. At your service Larry Pegg 208 249 0538 -----Original Message----- From: Tim Diebert <tim@timtone.com> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 8:02 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Handicaping Sounds like fun. The racing part anyway. I had looked into racing our M17 with the local hot shots....but there is some kind of rule restriction preventing me. Said something about minimum length. I think perhaps they thought the 17 did not have a ballast keel. Whatever. I personally think the boat was not worth enough to be allowed in. I lost a clevis pin strbd shroud on my previous boat. I was close hauled on a strbd tack at the time. Result, beautiful Spruce mast in many pieces but nobody was hurt. I too found the pin....but not the ring.......on the side deck just forward of a scupper. I normally check split rings on pins before going out, but not this day. I had checked the previous day out. The only thought I had as to why a well set split ring would come out of a clevis pin is kids play around my boat all the time.....could have been just the right thing to noodle with. Funniest part of that story was my passenger that afternoon was a guy that drove 5 hours up from Vancouver to buy the boat. He paid for it and I had taken him out to show him 'the ropes'. What a day. The boat did not like him. Over the winter I made a new mast, re-did the rig and ended up selling her to a nice lady from California.....who drove all the way up here to pick her up. The boat liked her. Tim in Kelowna .....where all the mad 2000hp super boat owners finally all went home. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of larrypegg@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:06 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Handicaping Does anyone know the Portsmouth yardstick handicap numbers for an M-17.? I looked it up on the web but no info on how to do it.? Just the formulas with very little explanation. We had a great time racing. My wife says she feels twenty again. We got better and better as the weekend went along and the last race we were respectable.? Had a little adventure Sunday morning as the starboard outer shroud pin came out as we were setting the jib.? Wife brought us into the wind , I dropped all the sails she got the outboard down and started.? And as luck would have it I found the pin against the toe rail.? I got a new safety ring and repined the shroud and we were "just a bit" late starting the first race.? The last race of the weekend we were in great shape and misjudged the last buoy and touched it so had to make a penalty 360 and finished well back.? Everyone said we were doing great for our first race with so little previous sailing experience.? So put the boat on the trailer had a burger and beer at the Pub and home tired with big smiles all around. At your service Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55 208 249 0538 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1661 - Release Date: 9/9/2008 4:58 AM _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
I'm confused with this piece. What pins are we talking about that requires being replaced with bolts?? ----- Original Message ----- From: <larrypegg@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Handicaping
I'm changing all my pins to bolts with safety wire. I have been to a local machine shop to have them made of HS stainless steel.? I don't want this to happen half way up the sound or in some other Challenging part of the world.
At your service
Larry Pegg
208 249 0538
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Diebert <tim@timtone.com> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 8:02 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Handicaping
Sounds like fun. The racing part anyway. I had looked into racing our M17 with the local hot shots....but there is some kind of rule restriction preventing me. Said something about minimum length. I think perhaps they thought the 17 did not have a ballast keel. Whatever. I personally think the boat was not worth enough to be allowed in.
I lost a clevis pin strbd shroud on my previous boat. I was close hauled on a strbd tack at the time. Result, beautiful Spruce mast in many pieces but nobody was hurt. I too found the pin....but not the ring.......on the side deck just forward of a scupper. I normally check split rings on pins before going out, but not this day. I had checked the previous day out. The only thought I had as to why a well set split ring would come out of a clevis pin is kids play around my boat all the time.....could have been just the right thing to noodle with.
Funniest part of that story was my passenger that afternoon was a guy that drove 5 hours up from Vancouver to buy the boat. He paid for it and I had taken him out to show him 'the ropes'. What a day. The boat did not like him. Over the winter I made a new mast, re-did the rig and ended up selling her to a nice lady from California.....who drove all the way up here to pick her up. The boat liked her.
Tim in Kelowna .....where all the mad 2000hp super boat owners finally all went home.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of larrypegg@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:06 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Handicaping
Does anyone know the Portsmouth yardstick handicap numbers for an M-17.? I looked it up on the web but no info on how to do it.? Just the formulas with very little explanation.
We had a great time racing. My wife says she feels twenty again. We got better and better as the weekend went along and the last race we were respectable.? Had a little adventure Sunday morning as the starboard outer shroud pin came out as we were setting the jib.? Wife brought us into the wind , I dropped all the sails she got the outboard down and started.? And as luck would have it I found the pin against the toe rail.? I got a new safety ring and repined the shroud and we were "just a bit" late starting the first race.? The last race of the weekend we were in great shape and misjudged the last buoy and touched it so had to make a penalty 360 and finished well back.? Everyone said we were doing great for our first race with so little previous sailing experience.? So put the boat on the trailer had a burger and beer at the Pub and home tired with big smiles all around.
At your service
Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55
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The pins that hold the shrouds to the cabin.? Some how the keeper was pulled out and the pin came out.? It would not have happened if it was a bolt with a safety wire like I used in the air force.? These connections are not required to come out very often and so I will eliminate those little ring keepers for a more industrial connection.? I found the required hardware on the web and am awaiting a reply. At your service Larry Pegg 208 249 0538 -----Original Message----- From: Joe Murphy <seagray@embarqmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 7:18 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Handicaping I'm confused with this piece. What pins are we talking about that requires being replaced with bolts?? ----- Original Message ----- From: <larrypegg@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 11:34 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Handicaping
I'm changing all my pins to bolts with safety wire. I have been to a local machine shop to have them made of HS stainless steel.? I don't want this to happen half way up the sound or in some other Challenging part of the world.
At your service
Larry Pegg
208 249 0538
-----Original Message----- From: Tim Diebert <tim@timtone.com> To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 8:02 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Handicaping
Sounds like fun. The racing part anyway. I had looked into racing our M17 with the local hot shots....but there is some kind of rule restriction preventing me. Said something about minimum length. I think perhaps they thought the 17 did not have a ballast keel. Whatever. I personally think the boat was not worth enough to be allowed in.
I lost a clevis pin strbd shroud on my previous boat. I was close hauled on a strbd tack at the time. Result, beautiful Spruce mast in many pieces but nobody was hurt. I too found the pin....but not the ring.......on the side deck just forward of a scupper. I normally check split rings on pins before going out, but not this day. I had checked the previous day out. The only thought I had as to why a well set split ring would come out of a clevis pin is kids play around my boat all the time.....could have been just the right thing to noodle with.
Funniest part of that story was my passenger that afternoon was a guy that drove 5 hours up from Vancouver to buy the boat. He paid for it and I had taken him out to show him 'the ropes'. What a day. The boat did not like him. Over the winter I made a new mast, re-did the rig and ended up selling her to a nice lady from California.....who drove all the way up here to pick her up. The boat liked her.
Tim in Kelowna .....where all the mad 2000hp super boat owners finally all went home.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of larrypegg@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:06 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Handicaping
Does anyone know the Portsmouth yardstick handicap numbers for an M-17.? I looked it up on the web but no info on how to do it.? Just the formulas with very little explanation.
We had a great time racing. My wife says she feels twenty again. We got better and better as the weekend went along and the last race we were respectable.? Had a little adventure Sunday morning as the starboard outer shroud pin came out as we were setting the jib.? Wife brought us into the wind , I dropped all the sails she got the outboard down and started.? And as luck would have it I found the pin against the toe rail.? I got a new safety ring and repined the shroud and we were "just a bit" late starting the first race.? The last race of the weekend we were in great shape and misjudged the last buoy and touched it so had to make a penalty 360 and finished well back.? Everyone said we were doing great for our first race with so little previous sailing experience.? So put the boat on the trailer had a burger and beer at the Pub and home tired with big smiles all around.
At your service
Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55
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If I remember correctly it's 104. Gary O is more currenter than I, maybe he'll pipe in. ----- Original Message ----- From: <larrypegg@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2008 1:06 AM Subject: M_Boats: Handicaping
Does anyone know the Portsmouth yardstick handicap numbers for an M-17.? I looked it up on the web but no info on how to do it.? Just the formulas with very little explanation.
We had a great time racing. My wife says she feels twenty again. We got better and better as the weekend went along and the last race we were respectable.? Had a little adventure Sunday morning as the starboard outer shroud pin came out as we were setting the jib.? Wife brought us into the wind , I dropped all the sails she got the outboard down and started.? And as luck would have it I found the pin against the toe rail.? I got a new safety ring and repined the shroud and we were "just a bit" late starting the first race.? The last race of the weekend we were in great shape and misjudged the last buoy and touched it so had to make a penalty 360 and finished well back.? Everyone said we were doing great for our first race with so little previous sailing experience.? So put the boat on the trailer had a burger and beer at the Pub and home tired with big smiles all around.
At your service
Larry Pegg Pilgrim M-17 #55
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