Hi Joe, Thanks for your email. Mine did come along on the same load as yours. We are on Charlotte Harbour at Burnt Store Marina just south of Punta Gorda. The water is skinny that's for sure so a M23 sailng grounds would be limited in Charlotte Harbor. It is so shallow even the M17 would be a problem. We do a lot of Sea Pearl sailing which is almost the peferct shallow water boat. I was just looking to get my current big boat sold then get something smaller but still offer Flicka type or M23 type cruising comforts for extented trips. The M17 is actually fine and the bigger deal I guess is I am living in two places and it's just to far to trailer the boat back and forth as often as we travel back and forth. I guess I should be working on how to simplify my life a little instead looking for another boat. Sounds like you have some nice upgrades in the works for your M17. Please let me know what you decide on for a place to mount the VHF. My handheld is not doing the job either. Regards, Tony E. Tony Reed -----Original Message----- From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> Subj: Re: M_Boats: M23 Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 5:11 pm Size: 3K To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Tony, If you are still looking for an M23 check out http://www.sailingtexas.com/smontgomery23a.html I'm not sure if it finally sold. The newer M23's look a lot like the Falmouth Cutter which it is fashioned after. I was very tempted into pursuing the M23 and talked to Bob Eeg about it. I told him the "whats and wherefores" for my particular situation and he strongly suggested the M17 instead. Will you have a water depth issue in Florida? If not, perhaps you might want to look at some Falmouth Cutters or the Flickas. I had a NorSea 27 for 5 years but the sailing areas where I live here on the outer banks of NC are just not conducive to a 4' draft boat unless you stay rigidly within the channels. Not much fun when I look out my back door to the Bogue Sound that is 2 miles wide and 25 long and is about 2' deep in 90% of it. Glad you are enjoying your M17. I have mine out to do some spring stuff like bottom washing and touchup and a good varnish job on the little bit of teak (compared to the NorSea!!) Plus I'm putting in a 12V system with nav lights and some interior lights, fans etc. I'm also putting in a fixed VHF with a mast antenna. I haven't figured out the best place to locate the radio. I have a handheld but sometimes it doesn't have quite enough juice to stay in touch with others. I'll probably go out with a group wide solicitation of suggestions. Sailing it is quite a new experience compared to the NorSea. Ten feet shorter and ten thousand pounds lighter I guess would make a difference. I actually have to trim sails!! New learning curve. BTW was I correct that your boat and mine came cross country together with a total of three on the same trailer or was your's the one that came tranported solo?? My M17 is called Seafrog. Good luck in your search for the perfect Florida boat and have fun on the M17 Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2009 3:16 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: M23
Joe..I did get a M17 last summer and I really like it a lot. I have had a bigger boat (43') in South Florida for the past 10 years and I would like to relpace it with something a little bigger than the M17. I keep the M17 on Ky Lake and it's just to far to trailer it back an forth as often as we go to Florida. I plan to keep the M17 and I must say I enjoyed it more than about any other boat I have owned in the past. Regards Tony
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From: "Joe Murphy" <seagray@embarqmail.com> Subj: Re: M_Boats: M23 Date: Wed Apr 1, 2009 1:49 pm Size: 925 bytes To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats"<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>
Tony! Didn't you just get a M17 last summer? Already ready to upsize?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: <treed@communitycareinc.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 11:05 PM Subject: M_Boats: M23
Bob....I noticed you are finishing up a couple M23's. I didn't see any price and spec information on Montgomery Boats. What the price range and delivery time when set up for cruising? We you get one finished up I would like to come take a look at one.
Best Regards, Tony E. Tony Reed
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My hand held radio just isn't sufficient for my location so I recently purchased a fixed mount VHF. I'm going to intall a mast antenna this weekend if this storm finally leaves the east. My question is this. Do any of you have any good ideas for the best way to mount a fixed VHF. Obviously I want to have easy access to it at the helm. I also would like to have access to it from within the cabin on occassion. Thanks for any advice. Joe Seafrog M17
Joe, I have my VHF mounted to the overhead on the port side of the compression post with the microphone clipped to the post. My head is on the starboard side so it is not in the way of the sitter. An advantage is that I can see the panel and easily reach the controlsfrom the cockpit and the speaker faces the cockpit. Griselda is a galley model so it might not work as well for Seafrog. I found a compact "racing" center loaded antenna at West marine that fits the masthead well. It is not as high gain as the 3 foot base loaded fiberglass model but is much smaller, lighter, lower windage and looks better. Ron M17 #14, Griselda
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:49:14 -0400 Subject: M_Boats: Fixed Mounted VHF Radios.
My hand held radio just isn't sufficient for my location so I recently purchased a fixed mount VHF. I'm going to intall a mast antenna this weekend if this storm finally leaves the east. My question is this. Do any of you have any good ideas for the best way to mount a fixed VHF. Obviously I want to have easy access to it at the helm. I also would like to have access to it from within the cabin on occassion. Thanks for any advice. Joe Seafrog M17
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That's one approach I hadn't thought of. I'll play around with it this weekend. How did you mount to the overhead? Just screws?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Keeler" <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> To: "Montgomery boats mailing list" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fixed Mounted VHF Radios.
Joe,
I have my VHF mounted to the overhead on the port side of the compression post with the microphone clipped to the post. My head is on the starboard side so it is not in the way of the sitter. An advantage is that I can see the panel and easily reach the controlsfrom the cockpit and the speaker faces the cockpit. Griselda is a galley model so it might not work as well for Seafrog.
I found a compact "racing" center loaded antenna at West marine that fits the masthead well. It is not as high gain as the 3 foot base loaded fiberglass model but is much smaller, lighter, lower windage and looks better.
Ron
M17 #14, Griselda
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:49:14 -0400 Subject: M_Boats: Fixed Mounted VHF Radios.
My hand held radio just isn't sufficient for my location so I recently purchased a fixed mount VHF. I'm going to intall a mast antenna this weekend if this storm finally leaves the east. My question is this. Do any of you have any good ideas for the best way to mount a fixed VHF. Obviously I want to have easy access to it at the helm. I also would like to have access to it from within the cabin on occassion. Thanks for any advice. Joe Seafrog M17
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Joe, My monty has two halfround hollow tubes from the mast step to the chainplate area. I used self tappng stainless screws to attach a plate between these tubes and attached the bracket to the plate. I am not sure the later boats have these reinforcing tubes. Griselda is hull # 14 and one of the first 20 boats built with a cast iron fin keel. Ron M17 #14, Griselda
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That's one approach I hadn't thought of. I'll play around with it this weekend. How did you mount to the overhead? Just screws?? Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ronnie Keeler" <ronkeeler@hotmail.com> To: "Montgomery boats mailing list" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fixed Mounted VHF Radios.
Joe,
I have my VHF mounted to the overhead on the port side of the compression post with the microphone clipped to the post. My head is on the starboard side so it is not in the way of the sitter. An advantage is that I can see the panel and easily reach the controlsfrom the cockpit and the speaker faces the cockpit. Griselda is a galley model so it might not work as well for Seafrog.
I found a compact "racing" center loaded antenna at West marine that fits the masthead well. It is not as high gain as the 3 foot base loaded fiberglass model but is much smaller, lighter, lower windage and looks better.
Ron
M17 #14, Griselda
From: seagray@embarqmail.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 08:49:14 -0400 Subject: M_Boats: Fixed Mounted VHF Radios.
My hand held radio just isn't sufficient for my location so I recently purchased a fixed mount VHF. I'm going to intall a mast antenna this weekend if this storm finally leaves the east. My question is this. Do any of you have any good ideas for the best way to mount a fixed VHF. Obviously I want to have easy access to it at the helm. I also would like to have access to it from within the cabin on occassion. Thanks for any advice. Joe Seafrog M17
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I've seen guys put an auxiliary antenna on top of the mast that plugged into their handheld in the cabin. Kind of jury rigged - but definitely out of the way when not needed. Has anybody tried this and does it really work? Jim M-17 "Spirit" On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:49 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
My hand held radio just isn't sufficient for my location so I recently purchased a fixed mount VHF. I'm going to intall a mast antenna this weekend if this storm finally leaves the east. My question is this. Do any of you have any good ideas for the best way to mount a fixed VHF. Obviously I want to have easy access to it at the helm. I also would like to have access to it from within the cabin on occassion. Thanks for any advice. Joe Seafrog M17
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I had heard this before and talked to some "experts" who said that a mast top antenna might help with the receiption but trying to transmit with a 5 watt handheld wouldn't improve much if any. But I too would like to hear if anyone has tried it. Thanks for the input. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Poulakis" <picfo@comcast.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 2:52 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Fixed Mounted VHF Radios.
I've seen guys put an auxiliary antenna on top of the mast that plugged into their handheld in the cabin. Kind of jury rigged - but definitely out of the way when not needed. Has anybody tried this and does it really work?
Jim M-17 "Spirit"
On Apr 3, 2009, at 5:49 AM, Joe Murphy wrote:
My hand held radio just isn't sufficient for my location so I recently purchased a fixed mount VHF. I'm going to intall a mast antenna this weekend if this storm finally leaves the east. My question is this. Do any of you have any good ideas for the best way to mount a fixed VHF. Obviously I want to have easy access to it at the helm. I also would like to have access to it from within the cabin on occassion. Thanks for any advice. Joe Seafrog M17
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Joe, how about a remote radio w/RAM mic(s), like the Standard Horizon PS1000 I bought (but have yet to install) a few years ago? My "grand plan" was to be able to move the black box and the microphone back and forth as needed between the power boat and the Montgomery, so, of course, it's sitting in the box in the basement (right next to the marine stereo system). The radio itself is mounted out of the way, and completely out of sight if you want, and controlled from one or more handsets. There was a higher end PS2000 also. Though they've been discontinued you could probably find a NOS or used one, maybe even down there in Craven or Carteret Counties. John Tyner M-15 #412 "Chimpanzee" Joe Murphy wrote:
My hand held radio just isn't sufficient for my location so I recently purchased a fixed mount VHF. I'm going to intall a mast antenna this weekend if this storm finally leaves the east. My question is this. Do any of you have any good ideas for the best way to mount a fixed VHF. Obviously I want to have easy access to it at the helm. I also would like to have access to it from within the cabin on occassion. Thanks for any advice. Joe Seafrog M17
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