Nice! Looked up the butterfly knot - very useful, hadn't seen that before. My question to those of you retrieving anchor from cockpit is this: When you need to keep the boat head to wind when weighing anchor, how do you do that? If I need sails up and bow to wind for safety and/or maneuvering immediately after anchor up, that doesn't work if I'm pulling from the stern. I'll be stern or stern quarter to wind. I can imagine a loop of line to the bow rigged various ways, so that the anchor can be raised all but the last few feet still pulling from the bow, then pull the loop to bring the rode back to cockpit. Or something like that...? thanks, John On 10/24/21 5:11 PM, Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats wrote:

I kind of worked out a way that works for me.   I have a 12' painter line on the bow with a stainless carabinerthat I just keep hooked near the cockpit (outside of all the stays, with a sheepshank to take up the slack.) Then I have my rode and and anchor(s) in the locker.   I let the anchor go from the cockpit and let out the required scope then put in a small circus bowline or butterfly knot (an inline loop) and hook it up to the painter with thecarabiner and let it the rest of the way out, keeping the extra rode in the cockpit.    Then when I want to retrieve, I just pull on the rode and pull everything back in, then clip in the painter carabiner. I'm extra lazy and even leave a few loops in at few common scopes and the "last scope" which leaves me enough line to keep it to retrieve it. On retrieval I pull up the anchor from the cockpit and hook it up with a biner hanging over the side (cuz it's dirty) so I can clean it before putting it back in the boat.

In theory I never have to go up to the bow.    I can also use a little drift sock as a sea anchor using the samemethod.

On Sunday, October 24, 2021, 4:29:39 PM PDT, sheppardtb via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:

I have a M 15 and would like " blow by blow" on anchoring from cockpit.Dave Scobie and others might help me out.Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device

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Tried this out on a trip to the Outer Banks yesterday. Worked really well to get both a starboard and a port anchor out from the bow. It also helped recovering the anchor which made sailing away from the beach easier Due to the anchorage I had to do the final adjustments on the scope for the windward anchor from the bow. The beach here has a gentle slope to 15 yards and drops more steeply. The sweet spot to anchor while on the island is adjusting your rodes to keep the boat in 2.5' (below the waist/privates)) at low water and under 5'(chest depth) while at high tide. The first depth is controlled by the draft on a M-15, as well as the water.air temperature in November). The 2nd depth is to ensure that you can reach the boat while standing on the bottom. With a 2 + knot tide current in some locations it is easy to be swept past a boat unless you can swim really fast. For beach anchorages local practice is for 2 anchors. One to keep the boat off the shore, and a 2nd to keep the boat close enough to the beach (to easily wade ashore). This is sometimes complicated the tide that often changes direction while anchored. Power boaters usually have an anchor from both bow and stern. I prefer both anchors from the bow so that the head of the boat swings with the tide instead of being pushed sideways with tide changes. On Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 8:11 PM Lawrence Winiarski via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:

I kind of worked out a way that works for me. I have a 12' painter line on the bow with a stainless carabinerthat I just keep hooked near the cockpit (outside of all the stays, with a sheepshank to take up the slack.) Then I have my rode and and anchor(s) in the locker. I let the anchor go from the cockpit and let out the required scope then put in a small circus bowline or butterfly knot (an inline loop) and hook it up to the painter with thecarabiner and let it the rest of the way out, keeping the extra rode in the cockpit. Then when I want to retrieve, I just pull on the rode and pull everything back in, then clip in the painter carabiner. I'm extra lazy and even leave a few loops in at few common scopes and the "last scope" which leaves me enough line to keep it to retrieve it. On retrieval I pull up the anchor from the cockpit and hook it up with a biner hanging over the side (cuz it's dirty) so I can clean it before putting it back in the boat.

In theory I never have to go up to the bow. I can also use a little drift sock as a sea anchor using the samemethod.

On Sunday, October 24, 2021, 4:29:39 PM PDT, sheppardtb via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:

I have a M 15 and would like " blow by blow" on anchoring from cockpit.Dave Scobie and others might help me out.Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device