My boat came with both the original fixed and Idasailor kickup rudders, and I have never used the fixed rudder. The kickup stays on the boat all the time, not having to be removed for launching and retrieving. Rick M-17 Lynne L ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)