Hi George, You have a good nose for boats. For many, many years I was a big boat sailor (29' Tripp-Lentsch), but then I came to the conclusion that the home waters were no fun any more: too crowded; no peace and quiet; harbor launches rolling you out of your berth till 1 AM; so we decided to go small, trailerable, and where the big boys can't go. The first boat was a Bolger MICRO, a great boat; - however, stepping a free standing 26 foot spruce mast became more than I could handle (at 78 years of age), so: the MICRO size was right (15'); it was easy to trailer, launch, and retrieve, but now I looked for something with an aluminum mast and shrouds - about the same size. I found a ComPac 16 that needed a lot of TLC. Fixed it up, and sailed it for a few years. But, ................ The ComPac 16 has lousy storage: everything gets pushed back on the berths that extend under the cockpit seats. There are no sail lockers in the cockpit, so anytime you want anything: anchor, fenders, mooring lines, etc, it's dig them out from the berths................. No way to operate a sailboat. Then the ComPac 16 with it's stub keel makes a great deal of leeway when hard on the wind............ That's when I discovered the Montgomery 15, and after all the good words about the boat I heard from the owners via the web site, I bought one sight-unseen in Panama City, FL. All I can say is, it's a great boat for it's size. Lots of good useable storage space - sail lockers in the cockpit, plus inside storage under the berths; No mast support post in the middle of the boat (as in the ComPac). Space for a Portapotti; plus additional storage space under the cockpit sole, that is easily accessible, and in constant use (galley box in an 18" tool box; tools; nav. gear.) It's a sailor's boat, and I thoroughly enjoy sailing it every time I'm out on the water. I find the M15 more than meets my needs, (two adults + grandchildren maybe once a year for day sailing) but the choice M15 - M17 is a function of your age; how many people go sailing; where do you go sailing; and what kind of a vehicle do you have for towing. I tow the M15 with a VW VR6 Jetta wagon; and towed the previous boats: the MICRO and ComPac with a VW VR6 GTI, and a normal 115 HP GOLF. That becomes a factor in the equation: bigger boat that needs a bigger tow vehicle? Ask questions as you refine your choice. We're more than willing to assist with answers and comments. Connie M15 #400 LEPPO ComPac 16 MICRO Northeast 38 Tripp-Lentsch 29
On 10/22/03 8:14 AM, "chbenneck@juno.com" <chbenneck@juno.com> wrote: To all, I want to thank everyone for your kind welcome(s) to the list. I have read every word on the MSOG site and the factory site as well, I think. I was especially appreciative of the discussion on 15 versus 17 on MSOG and have to agree with all the rest that the final decision is pretty much up in the air! Yesterday, I thought the 15 was the right boat since it probably will fit in my garage enticing me to sail every time I get in my car to head off to work. Today the 17 seems more like it because its weight will better handle the winds and currents around here...tomorrow, who knows? So I think I will sit back and follow the list for a while, try to examine one of these boats close up, and see what happens. Thanks again for all your encouraging words. George Burmeyer Santa Rosa, CA
Hi George,
You have a good nose for boats.
For many, many years I was a big boat sailor (29' Tripp-Lentsch), but then I came to the conclusion that the home waters were no fun any more: too crowded; no peace and quiet; harbor launches rolling you out of your berth till 1 AM; so we decided to go small, trailerable, and where the big boys can't go.
The first boat was a Bolger MICRO, a great boat; - however, stepping a free standing 26 foot spruce mast became more than I could handle (at 78 years of age), so: the MICRO size was right (15'); it was easy to trailer, launch, and retrieve, but now I looked for something with an aluminum mast and shrouds - about the same size.
I found a ComPac 16 that needed a lot of TLC. Fixed it up, and sailed it for a few years.
But, ................ The ComPac 16 has lousy storage: everything gets pushed back on the berths that extend under the cockpit seats. There are no sail lockers in the cockpit, so anytime you want anything: anchor, fenders, mooring lines, etc, it's dig them out from the berths................. No way to operate a sailboat.
Then the ComPac 16 with it's stub keel makes a great deal of leeway when hard on the wind............
That's when I discovered the Montgomery 15, and after all the good words about the boat I heard from the owners via the web site, I bought one sight-unseen in Panama City, FL.
All I can say is, it's a great boat for it's size. Lots of good useable storage space - sail lockers in the cockpit, plus inside storage under the berths; No mast support post in the middle of the boat (as in the ComPac). Space for a Portapotti; plus additional storage space under the cockpit sole, that is easily accessible, and in constant use (galley box in an 18" tool box; tools; nav. gear.)
It's a sailor's boat, and I thoroughly enjoy sailing it every time I'm out on the water.
I find the M15 more than meets my needs, (two adults + grandchildren maybe once a year for day sailing) but the choice M15 - M17 is a function of your age; how many people go sailing; where do you go sailing; and what kind of a vehicle do you have for towing.
I tow the M15 with a VW VR6 Jetta wagon; and towed the previous boats: the MICRO and ComPac with a VW VR6 GTI, and a normal 115 HP GOLF.
That becomes a factor in the equation: bigger boat that needs a bigger tow vehicle?
Ask questions as you refine your choice.
We're more than willing to assist with answers and comments.
Connie
M15 #400 LEPPO ComPac 16 MICRO Northeast 38 Tripp-Lentsch 29
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George, The 17 will take more than the 15 however the 15 might keep you happy and safe. Yesterday I was in 20 knots with reefed main and full std jib. I tried to put her over on her side but she just wouldn't go. She took a little water into the cockpit once but then rounded up immediately saving me from the wrath of my foolishness. The boat was doing 4 1/2 to 5+ knots and having a great time as was I. At the end of the day I took her home and tucked her safely away in the garage. Jesse M 15 343 Carolyn J ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Burmeyer" <burmeyer@sbcglobal.net> To: "Montgomery Boats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:57 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: New to List
On 10/22/03 8:14 AM, "chbenneck@juno.com" <chbenneck@juno.com> wrote:
To all,
I want to thank everyone for your kind welcome(s) to the list. I have read every word on the MSOG site and the factory site as well, I think. I was especially appreciative of the discussion on 15 versus 17 on MSOG and have to agree with all the rest that the final decision is pretty much up in the air! Yesterday, I thought the 15 was the right boat since it probably will fit in my garage enticing me to sail every time I get in my car to head off to work. Today the 17 seems more like it because its weight will better handle the winds and currents around here...tomorrow, who knows?
So I think I will sit back and follow the list for a while, try to examine one of these boats close up, and see what happens.
Thanks again for all your encouraging words.
George Burmeyer Santa Rosa, CA
Hi George,
You have a good nose for boats.
For many, many years I was a big boat sailor (29' Tripp-Lentsch), but then I came to the conclusion that the home waters were no fun any more: too crowded; no peace and quiet; harbor launches rolling you out of your berth till 1 AM; so we decided to go small, trailerable, and where the big boys can't go.
The first boat was a Bolger MICRO, a great boat; - however, stepping a free standing 26 foot spruce mast became more than I could handle (at 78 years of age), so: the MICRO size was right (15'); it was easy to trailer, launch, and retrieve, but now I looked for something with an aluminum mast and shrouds - about the same size.
I found a ComPac 16 that needed a lot of TLC. Fixed it up, and sailed it for a few years.
But, ................ The ComPac 16 has lousy storage: everything gets pushed back on the berths that extend under the cockpit seats. There are no sail lockers in the cockpit, so anytime you want anything: anchor, fenders, mooring lines, etc, it's dig them out from the berths................. No way to operate a sailboat.
Then the ComPac 16 with it's stub keel makes a great deal of leeway when hard on the wind............
That's when I discovered the Montgomery 15, and after all the good words about the boat I heard from the owners via the web site, I bought one sight-unseen in Panama City, FL.
All I can say is, it's a great boat for it's size. Lots of good useable storage space - sail lockers in the cockpit, plus inside storage under the berths; No mast support post in the middle of the boat (as in the ComPac). Space for a Portapotti; plus additional storage space under the cockpit sole, that is easily accessible, and in constant use (galley box in an 18" tool box; tools; nav. gear.)
It's a sailor's boat, and I thoroughly enjoy sailing it every time I'm out on the water.
I find the M15 more than meets my needs, (two adults + grandchildren maybe once a year for day sailing) but the choice M15 - M17 is a function of your age; how many people go sailing; where do you go sailing; and what kind of a vehicle do you have for towing.
I tow the M15 with a VW VR6 Jetta wagon; and towed the previous boats: the MICRO and ComPac with a VW VR6 GTI, and a normal 115 HP GOLF.
That becomes a factor in the equation: bigger boat that needs a bigger tow vehicle?
Ask questions as you refine your choice.
We're more than willing to assist with answers and comments.
Connie
M15 #400 LEPPO ComPac 16 MICRO Northeast 38 Tripp-Lentsch 29
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