I am a new owner of a 1994 Montgomery 15 for about 4 months now. Right now I am trying to install a home made check valve in the cockpit drain to block water trying to enter due to wave action. This also requires a pvc pipe for the centerboard rope. I have some "G/flex 650" that I think should be ok. Any ideas on how to get the two parts mounted and fully wetted by the epoxy while keeping it from dripping excessively into the CB trunk will be appreciated. I tested the valve. It seems ok. I made it from concentric polycarbonate cylinders. Also, the seal and ball are removable or replaceable from the top as instaled. The checkvalve has an ID of 0.875 inches and could accept a rubber or cork plug. There are some project photos linked below. The present plan has a smaller rope pipe fitting than shown in the view 1. Thanks, Jim Dahlquist jim@dhlqst.com Palatine, IL 847-341-0086 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv1Assy.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv2Hole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv3Hole-PipeHole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CheckValve01.jpg
Doesn't the rope have to go thru the check valve, making it inoperable? Sent from my iPhone August & Susan Trometer 239 849 4681 North Fort Myers, FL atrometer@gmail.com On Oct 24, 2012, at 12:29 AM, Jim Dahlquist <jimdahlquist@gmail.com> wrote: I am a new owner of a 1994 Montgomery 15 for about 4 months now. Right now I am trying to install a home made check valve in the cockpit drain to block water trying to enter due to wave action. This also requires a pvc pipe for the centerboard rope. I have some "G/flex 650" that I think should be ok. Any ideas on how to get the two parts mounted and fully wetted by the epoxy while keeping it from dripping excessively into the CB trunk will be appreciated. I tested the valve. It seems ok. I made it from concentric polycarbonate cylinders. Also, the seal and ball are removable or replaceable from the top as instaled. The checkvalve has an ID of 0.875 inches and could accept a rubber or cork plug. There are some project photos linked below. The present plan has a smaller rope pipe fitting than shown in the view 1. Thanks, Jim Dahlquist jim@dhlqst.com Palatine, IL 847-341-0086 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv1Assy.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv2Hole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv3Hole-PipeHole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CheckValve01.jpg
Jim; Welcome to Montgomery World! Good to have another Midwesterner on board! The photos of your project look impressive!, I hope it works out for you. The splashing from wave action in the M-15 was initially a surprise for us. To keep feet dry on board especially when sailing in cool weather we laid a rubber grid mat about 1/2 inch thick. No great engineer feat like what you propose, but it worked for us. Martha Ekwurtzel '01 M-15 "Knot Head" Oak Park Illinois Edgerton, Wisconsin -----Original Message----- From: Jim Dahlquist <jimdahlquist@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 23, 2012 11:29 pm Subject: M_Boats: Check valve drain for a Montgomery 15 I am a new owner of a 1994 Montgomery 15 for about 4 months now. Right now I am trying to install a home made check valve in the cockpit drain to block water trying to enter due to wave action. This also requires a pvc pipe for the centerboard rope. I have some "G/flex 650" that I think should be ok. Any ideas on how to get the two parts mounted and fully wetted by the epoxy while keeping it from dripping excessively into the CB trunk will be appreciated. I tested the valve. It seems ok. I made it from concentric polycarbonate cylinders. Also, the seal and ball are removable or replaceable from the top as instaled. The checkvalve has an ID of 0.875 inches and could accept a rubber or cork plug. There are some project photos linked below. The present plan has a smaller rope pipe fitting than shown in the view 1. Thanks, Jim Dahlquist jim@dhlqst.com Palatine, IL 847-341-0086 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv1Assy.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv2Hole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv3Hole-PipeHole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CheckValve01.jpg
I am new to this mail system. Not sure how to reply, or if reply should be directed individually or to all. I have red about the sponge idea. Also newer boats have something called a waterbox. Bascily I am trying to make my boat into a nice "old man's" boat. Maybe (going forward) a little less excitement generally, and a little more comfort. Just a little. I am an engineer(EE). I think I can do it, but I know I can mess it up. So I am taking time to ask around. No one in this area would do it for me for $100 or even $500. There is only one company that works on sailboats. I called them and two regular boat companies. I also just got a go ahead with the g-flex epoxy but still trying to get a call through to west systems. Jim Dahlquist
Hi Martha, I forgot to comment on being a Montgomery Midwesterner with you. I welcome that also. I see that you are in Oak park. Are we the only Montgomery Midwesterners? Do you go in Lake Michigan much? It looks like ramp options are down to just Burnham Harbor, right? I tried Lake Geneva this year, and that was nice. We have a cabin on Lake Nancy near Minong, WI where I tried but couldn't get the boat in. It was my first launch attempt, and the ramp was too primitive. I barely managed to get it in, before I allowed a quiet moment and the benefits of surrender and return next year with reinforcements. I have a new trailer extension, with an index tab to help align the pinning holes. The cabin is listed on my otherwise placeholder web site at www.dhlqst.com I really love the ocean and I have been thinking about the Florida Keys. I towed my old Venture down there many years ago and enjoyed it. Jim Dahlquist Palatine, IL. On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:15 AM, martha <marthaekwurtzel@aol.com> wrote:
Jim;
Welcome to Montgomery World! Good to have another Midwesterner on board!
The photos of your project look impressive!, I hope it works out for you.
The splashing from wave action in the M-15 was initially a surprise for us. To keep feet dry on board especially when sailing in cool weather we laid a rubber grid mat about 1/2 inch thick. No great engineer feat like what you propose, but it worked for us.
Martha Ekwurtzel '01 M-15 "Knot Head" Oak Park Illinois Edgerton, Wisconsin
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Dahlquist <jimdahlquist@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 23, 2012 11:29 pm Subject: M_Boats: Check valve drain for a Montgomery 15
I am a new owner of a 1994 Montgomery 15 for about 4 months now.
Right now I am trying to install a home made check valve in the cockpit drain to block water trying to enter due to wave action. This also requires a pvc pipe for the centerboard rope. I have some "G/flex 650" that I think should be ok.
Any ideas on how to get the two parts mounted and fully wetted by the epoxy while keeping it from dripping excessively into the CB trunk will be appreciated.
I tested the valve. It seems ok. I made it from concentric polycarbonate cylinders. Also, the seal and ball are removable or replaceable from the top as instaled. The checkvalve has an ID of 0.875 inches and could accept a rubber or cork plug.
There are some project photos linked below. The present plan has a smaller rope pipe fitting than shown in the view 1.
Thanks,
Jim Dahlquist jim@dhlqst.com Palatine, IL 847-341-0086
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv1Assy.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv2Hole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv3Hole-PipeHole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CheckValve01.jpg
Hi Jim! There are a few other Midwesterners with M boats that communicate either here, on the TraiierSailor Montgomery page or on the Facebook page. I have emailed with another Chicago area couple who, this year started sailing their M's (thats right two boats a 15 & a 17) on Lake Koshkonong, in South central Wisconsin, which is coincidently where I keep mine. There was a 15 for sale in Riverside this past spring, dont know where she landed Others communicate about sailing on Superior. I have never sailed this boat on Michigan. We find the trailer extension invaluable when launching in uncertain lake depths. I hope it helps your cause on Lake Nancy. I read about plenty of M sailors taking their boats out into Long Island Sound and Chesapeake Bay as well as Lake Champlain and Florida's coastal waters. There is a large contingent of Monty folk that attend the Lake Havasu Pocket Cruiser Event in February from all over the US. We have looked at several Newport of Venture 23's over the years, I don't suppose that's what you trailered to the Keyes? It finally feels like winter Jim! How's your project going? Martha Sent from my iPhone On Oct 26, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Jim Dahlquist <jimdahlquist@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Martha, I forgot to comment on being a Montgomery Midwesterner with you. I welcome that also. I see that you are in Oak park. Are we the only Montgomery Midwesterners?
Do you go in Lake Michigan much? It looks like ramp options are down to just Burnham Harbor, right? I tried Lake Geneva this year, and that was nice.
We have a cabin on Lake Nancy near Minong, WI where I tried but couldn't get the boat in. It was my first launch attempt, and the ramp was too primitive. I barely managed to get it in, before I allowed a quiet moment and the benefits of surrender and return next year with reinforcements. I have a new trailer extension, with an index tab to help align the pinning holes. The cabin is listed on my otherwise placeholder web site at www.dhlqst.com
I really love the ocean and I have been thinking about the Florida Keys. I towed my old Venture down there many years ago and enjoyed it.
Jim Dahlquist Palatine, IL.
On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:15 AM, martha <marthaekwurtzel@aol.com> wrote:
Jim;
Welcome to Montgomery World! Good to have another Midwesterner on board!
The photos of your project look impressive!, I hope it works out for you.
The splashing from wave action in the M-15 was initially a surprise for us. To keep feet dry on board especially when sailing in cool weather we laid a rubber grid mat about 1/2 inch thick. No great engineer feat like what you propose, but it worked for us.
Martha Ekwurtzel '01 M-15 "Knot Head" Oak Park Illinois Edgerton, Wisconsin
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Dahlquist <jimdahlquist@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tue, Oct 23, 2012 11:29 pm Subject: M_Boats: Check valve drain for a Montgomery 15
I am a new owner of a 1994 Montgomery 15 for about 4 months now.
Right now I am trying to install a home made check valve in the cockpit drain to block water trying to enter due to wave action. This also requires a pvc pipe for the centerboard rope. I have some "G/flex 650" that I think should be ok.
Any ideas on how to get the two parts mounted and fully wetted by the epoxy while keeping it from dripping excessively into the CB trunk will be appreciated.
I tested the valve. It seems ok. I made it from concentric polycarbonate cylinders. Also, the seal and ball are removable or replaceable from the top as instaled. The checkvalve has an ID of 0.875 inches and could accept a rubber or cork plug.
There are some project photos linked below. The present plan has a smaller rope pipe fitting than shown in the view 1.
Thanks,
Jim Dahlquist jim@dhlqst.com Palatine, IL 847-341-0086
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv1Assy.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv2Hole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CkVlv3Hole-PipeHole.JPG https://dl.dropbox.com/u/28005645/CheckValve01.jpg
Hi Martha, I just noticed your email, and comments from several others as well. I changed my boats email target to my less used gmail account to better handle the traffic. But I don't get here on a regular basis. I got a lot of useful info from Connie to improve my M15 rigging such as changing my main rope luff to nylon slides, fix my topping lift by adding a pulley and a cleat and some other minor stuff for next year smooth sailing. My boat is sitting out in my driveway. My check valve project will now have to wait until spring. It is too cold now and in the days ahead. I have to get the tarp on it and move it to the side of the house. I have leaves and yard work to do, and three small engines wanting maintenance. Doesn't mean they are going to get it. Oh and getting my wife's car in the garage. Ugh. So may places, only one boat! I had a pretty good sail experience in Lake Geneva I have been there in years past with my other boats, and it is almost always good. I think i've seen Koshkonong on Wisconsin maps and could be nice for sailing. I might get a chance to try it next year enroute to or from our cabin in Minong, WI. Please let me know if I am doing something wrong in this mailing system. I pressed reply, and it looks like it will go to everyone, and that is how your mail was addressed as well. And I see a number of other messages here; much like a more traditional forum. I am deleting unrelated messages older than just prior to this. Jim Dahlquist On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Martha Ekwurtzel <marthaekwurtzel@aol.com>wrote:
Hi Jim!
There are a few other Midwesterners with M boats that communicate either here, on the TraiierSailor Montgomery page or on the Facebook page. I have emailed with another Chicago area couple who, this year started sailing their M's (thats right two boats a 15 & a 17) on Lake Koshkonong, in South central Wisconsin, which is coincidently where I keep mine. There was a 15 for saleRiverside this past spring, dont know where she landed Others communicate about sailing on Superior. I have never sailed this boat on Michigan. We find the trailer extension invaluable when launching in uncertain lake depths. I hope it helps your cause on Lake Nancy.
I read about plenty of M sailors taking their boats out into Long Island Sound and Chesapeake Bay as well as Lake Champlain and Florida's coastal waters. There is a large contingent of Monty folk that attend the Lake Havasu Pocket Cruiser Event in February from all over the US. We have looked at several Newport of Venture 23's over the years, I don't suppose that's what you trailered to the Keyes? It finally feels like winter Jim! How's your project going?
Martha
Sent from my iPhone
I'm hoping to get out on Lake Perry on Thanksgiving afternoon for a late season sail on my M-17. Here's a link to a video that I made a couple of years ago: http://youtu.be/YK5fO2ihC4k Wishing all the montgomery sailors and friends a happy and safe Thanksgiving.
Thanks Tom! Have a great sail and happy Thanksgiving to all! Martha M15 knot head Sent from my iPhone On Nov 21, 2012, at 3:20 PM, "Thomas Howe" <Thomas@ThomasHoweOnline.com> wrote:
I'm hoping to get out on Lake Perry on Thanksgiving afternoon for a late season sail on my M-17. Here's a link to a video that I made a couple of years ago: http://youtu.be/YK5fO2ihC4k
Wishing all the montgomery sailors and friends a happy and safe Thanksgiving.
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