Re: furling genny - reefing cdi . . .
Hi Craig, This weekend I tried a plan with two jib stays but they were two close to each other and the jib snaps from one sail would get caught on the second jib, but once up the boat steered it self under almost all conditions. I need a bigger top 3/4 tang and some better arrangement on the bottom. The self steering was excellant approximately 25 degrees each side of the down hill run , by just adjusting one jib. By the way I solved the self rescue problem I had asked the group about . I got five air bags , with a total volume of twenty two cubic feet of air, and paint ball cartridges for instant inflation. Hope my calcs are good but that comes to a little over 1400 lbs of lift. I would only need to inflate if that weird accident should happen and get run down by a stink pot or rammed a hole in the side by hitting some big pointy object. In that way I need not carry a dinghy. My philosophy is don't go further than your cell phone range , unless you will take be able to take care of your self. this is a great group to get information from ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig F. Honshell To: MC Carpenter Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:47 PM Subject: furling genny - reefing cdi . . . Hi, Mike. I don't change the wire when I drop my mast. I just leave the furler and jib attached and bungee it against the mast while I trailer . . . My jib is not a 150, I think it was a 110 before I had it modified for the furler, so now it's a ______ (?) I want a 150 or 155, but that's on the wish list. Fair winds, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: MC Carpenter To: Craig F. Honshell ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: furling genny - reefing cdi . . . do you have to make any elaborate wire changes or anything when taken mast down or does it stay on the jib stay permanently. Is yours a 150 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig F. Honshell" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 11:08 PM Subject: furling genny - reefing cdi . . . The CDI FF2 works VERY well as a reefing unit for the M17, I wouldn't bother with any furling unit that wasn't also reefing. I have a used FF2, and buying one used is no problem because there are no complicated parts on the CDI to wear out . . . I have employed my REEFING capability extensively on my M17 to reduce sail in dicey conditions . . . I can reef from postage-stamp-size to full in seconds and would never settle for just two size options: 100 or 140 . . . With the CDI, there are no furling/reefing compromises, only a slight difficulty in stepping the mast, and let me emphasize, this is a SLIGHT difficulty, because stepping my 17's mast with the CDI is still a one-man job, with no gin-pole, baby-stays or other assists . . . Some claim the flat foil of the CDI doesn't give as good a sail shape as a round foil would, but I think my genny shape is fine when reefed to any size . . . My CDI Flexible Furler has really added safety and versatility to my sailing . . . It's been a very windy summer her in West Michigan, and my CDI has been invaluable . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: MC Carpenter To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:33 PM Subject: furling genny just saw a jib / genny combo able to be lock at either the 100 or 140 position, any one have this type sail, how about other furling gear that works or some that to stay away from
I'm intrested to know how the air bags and paint ball cartridges work. Can you explain the details, & where you bought them? Wayne M17 #204 ----- Original Message ----- From: "MC Carpenter" <southisland2@earthlink.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: "Craig F. Honshell" <chonshell@ia4u.net> Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:49 PM Subject: M_Boats: Re: furling genny - reefing cdi . . .
Hi Craig,
This weekend I tried a plan with two jib stays but they were two close to each other and the jib snaps from one sail would get caught on the second jib, but once up the boat steered it self under almost all conditions. I need a bigger top 3/4 tang and some better arrangement on the bottom. The self steering was excellant approximately 25 degrees each side of the down hill run , by just adjusting one jib.
By the way I solved the self rescue problem I had asked the group about . I got five air bags , with a total volume of twenty two cubic feet of air, and paint ball cartridges for instant inflation. Hope my calcs are good but that comes to a little over 1400 lbs of lift. I would only need to inflate if that weird accident should happen and get run down by a stink pot or rammed a hole in the side by hitting some big pointy object. In that way I need not carry a dinghy. My philosophy is don't go further than your cell phone range , unless you will take be able to take care of your self. this is a great group to get information from
----- Original Message ----- From: Craig F. Honshell To: MC Carpenter Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 8:47 PM Subject: furling genny - reefing cdi . . .
Hi, Mike. I don't change the wire when I drop my mast. I just leave the furler and jib attached and bungee it against the mast while I trailer . . . My jib is not a 150, I think it was a 110 before I had it modified for the furler, so now it's a ______ (?) I want a 150 or 155, but that's on the wish list. Fair winds, Craig
----- Original Message ----- From: MC Carpenter To: Craig F. Honshell ; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Sent: Friday, October 29, 2004 7:13 PM Subject: furling genny - reefing cdi . . .
do you have to make any elaborate wire changes or anything when taken mast down or does it stay on the jib stay permanently. Is yours a 150
----- Original Message ----- From: "Craig F. Honshell" <chonshell@ia4u.net> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 11:08 PM Subject: furling genny - reefing cdi . . .
The CDI FF2 works VERY well as a reefing unit for the M17, I wouldn't bother with any furling unit that wasn't also reefing. I have a used FF2, and buying one used is no problem because there are no complicated parts on the CDI to wear out . . . I have employed my REEFING capability extensively on my M17 to reduce sail in dicey conditions . . . I can reef from postage-stamp-size to full in seconds and would never settle for just two size options: 100 or 140 . . . With the CDI, there are no furling/reefing compromises, only a slight difficulty in stepping the mast, and let me emphasize, this is a SLIGHT difficulty, because stepping my 17's mast with the CDI is still a one-man job, with no gin-pole, baby-stays or other assists . . . Some claim the flat foil of the CDI doesn't give as good a sail shape as a round foil would, but I think my genny shape is fine when reefed to any size . . . My CDI Flexible Furler has really added safety and versatility to my sailing . . . It's been a very windy summer her in West Michigan, and my CDI has been invaluable . . .
----- Original Message ----- From: MC Carpenter To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2004 10:33 PM Subject: furling genny
just saw a jib / genny combo able to be lock at either the 100 or 140 position, any one have this type sail, how about other furling gear that works or some that to stay away from
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