Re: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe
If they were approaching from your starboard they do Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: Jim Sadler <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> Date: 3/16/18 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe Aloha skippers Last evening I found myself underway on a starboard tack and a collison course with a outrigger canoe powered by 6 or 7 big Hawaiian boys. Who has the right of way? Captain Jim Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican M15
actually ... this is a debated topic and I've always been told, going back to my lessons back in the '70s, to give way and stay out of the way of human powered vessels. however the regulations see human powered boats has power boats and therefore more maneuverable than a large vessel (ie, boat with limited mobility or in a channel) and a sailboat (with motor off). however, a captain is required, regardless of right of way, to avoid a collision. now - it is up to you if you wish to 'press the point' with a bunch of big dudes! :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:21 AM, thomaspbuzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
If they were approaching from your starboard they do
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: Jim Sadler < jimsadler@jascopacific.com> Date: 3/16/18 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe Aloha skippers
Last evening I found myself underway on a starboard tack and a collison course with a outrigger canoe powered by 6 or 7 big Hawaiian boys.
Who has the right of way?
Captain Jim Sadler
Skipper sailing vessel Pelican M15
Having lived in Hawaii back in he 50's during my Navy days I am in agreement with Dave . Stay out of the way of the big dudes., they only pick the biggest B..... A.... to paddle in the Cross Channel Races.😎 Stay cool Jim. Do you sail out of the Yacht Basin on Oahu? Are you the present owner of the M15 that was sailed to Hawaii, I forget his name but remember reading how he beefed up the rig and made the journey in approx. 30+ days if my memory serves me correctly. It may have been an M17. Dang it's tough getting old (86) 2 things go first in old age memory and I can't remember the other. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails" On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
actually ... this is a debated topic and I've always been told, going back to my lessons back in the '70s, to give way and stay out of the way of human powered vessels. however the regulations see human powered boats has power boats and therefore more maneuverable than a large vessel (ie, boat with limited mobility or in a channel) and a sailboat (with motor off).
however, a captain is required, regardless of right of way, to avoid a collision.
now - it is up to you if you wish to 'press the point' with a bunch of big dudes!
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:21 AM, thomaspbuzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
If they were approaching from your starboard they do
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: Jim Sadler < jimsadler@jascopacific.com> Date: 3/16/18 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe Aloha skippers
Last evening I found myself underway on a starboard tack and a collison course with a outrigger canoe powered by 6 or 7 big Hawaiian boys.
Who has the right of way?
Captain Jim Sadler
Skipper sailing vessel Pelican M15
His name was Michael Mann, it was an M15, and he has written a book about this adventure; " A Little Breeze to the West" that can be purchased on Amazon.best regards,MM Ps i would not challenge the big Hawaiians either From: George Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:18 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe Having lived in Hawaii back in he 50's during my Navy days I am in agreement with Dave . Stay out of the way of the big dudes., they only pick the biggest B..... A.... to paddle in the Cross Channel Races.😎 Stay cool Jim. Do you sail out of the Yacht Basin on Oahu? Are you the present owner of the M15 that was sailed to Hawaii, I forget his name but remember reading how he beefed up the rig and made the journey in approx. 30+ days if my memory serves me correctly. It may have been an M17. Dang it's tough getting old (86) 2 things go first in old age memory and I can't remember the other. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails" On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
actually ... this is a debated topic and I've always been told, going back to my lessons back in the '70s, to give way and stay out of the way of human powered vessels. however the regulations see human powered boats has power boats and therefore more maneuverable than a large vessel (ie, boat with limited mobility or in a channel) and a sailboat (with motor off).
however, a captain is required, regardless of right of way, to avoid a collision.
now - it is up to you if you wish to 'press the point' with a bunch of big dudes!
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:21 AM, thomaspbuzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
If they were approaching from your starboard they do
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: Jim Sadler < jimsadler@jascopacific.com> Date: 3/16/18 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe Aloha skippers
Last evening I found myself underway on a starboard tack and a collison course with a outrigger canoe powered by 6 or 7 big Hawaiian boys.
Who has the right of way?
Captain Jim Sadler
Skipper sailing vessel Pelican M15
Hey Mike- long time no see! hope things are going well for you. I think the last time I saw you, you were heading out to sea again (on a ship). -----Original Message----- From: Michael Mann Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 1:35 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe His name was Michael Mann, it was an M15, and he has written a book about this adventure; " A Little Breeze to the West" that can be purchased on Amazon.best regards,MM Ps i would not challenge the big Hawaiians either From: George Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 4:18 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe Having lived in Hawaii back in he 50's during my Navy days I am in agreement with Dave . Stay out of the way of the big dudes., they only pick the biggest B..... A.... to paddle in the Cross Channel Races.😎 Stay cool Jim. Do you sail out of the Yacht Basin on Oahu? Are you the present owner of the M15 that was sailed to Hawaii, I forget his name but remember reading how he beefed up the rig and made the journey in approx. 30+ days if my memory serves me correctly. It may have been an M17. Dang it's tough getting old (86) 2 things go first in old age memory and I can't remember the other. George "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails" On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
actually ... this is a debated topic and I've always been told, going back to my lessons back in the '70s, to give way and stay out of the way of human powered vessels. however the regulations see human powered boats has power boats and therefore more maneuverable than a large vessel (ie, boat with limited mobility or in a channel) and a sailboat (with motor off).
however, a captain is required, regardless of right of way, to avoid a collision.
now - it is up to you if you wish to 'press the point' with a bunch of big dudes!
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 SWEET PEA - https://m17-375.com/ <http://www.m17-375.webs.com> :: Truck camper - https://truckpopupcamper.wordpress.com/ :: Ramblings - https://scoobsramblings.wordpress.com/ :: former M15 owner #288 - http://www.freewebs.com/m15-name-scred
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:21 AM, thomaspbuzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
If they were approaching from your starboard they do
Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device -------- Original message --------From: Jim Sadler < jimsadler@jascopacific.com> Date: 3/16/18 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Right of way Montgomery 15 at Hawaiian outrigger canoe Aloha skippers
Last evening I found myself underway on a starboard tack and a collison course with a outrigger canoe powered by 6 or 7 big Hawaiian boys.
Who has the right of way?
Captain Jim Sadler
Skipper sailing vessel Pelican M15
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