I just found something out today that you guys might not have known either. West Marine will meet their competitors prices. Anything they carry, if you can find it in another catalog or on-line at a better price, they'll give you that price! (As long as it's not below their cost.) Bet that will change some shopping methods, huh? I also got some FANTASTIC deals there this weekend on an invitation sale for their "best" customers. A $169.99 vang for $63.00 A $89.99 fiddle block for $52.56 A $279.99 Harken Windward Sheeting Car for $164.36 .89/ft Regatta line for .26/ft A $76.99 Lewmar Claw 11lb. anchor for $36.91 A $15.99 teak trim strip for $4.23 and lots more of little stuff. None of the prices were posted. You had to ask them to scan for the price. I know they've been called the "evil empire" by some, but don't miss their sales! Larry