So we got our new to us M17 off the trailer, on to stands, and removed the centerboard. One problem we ran into was the centerboard wanted to drop right away. At first I thought the line was broke, but pulling with the winch showed me it wasn't. It appears that this splice is too long (about 8") so it binds up at the top before the centerboard is up fully. What is the normal connection there? -Gerry
What year Gerry Sent from my iPad On Apr 1, 2019, at 8:22 AM, Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com<mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> wrote: So we got our new to us M17 off the trailer, on to stands, and removed the centerboard. One problem we ran into was the centerboard wanted to drop right away. At first I thought the line was broke, but pulling with the winch showed me it wasn't. It appears that this splice is too long (about 8") so it binds up at the top before the centerboard is up fully. What is the normal connection there? <image1.jpeg> -Gerry
Hi Gerry, A smaller knot is necessary. I use a double slip knot on mine. I also opened up the hole in the centerboard trunk where the lanyard enters the cabin and fiberglassed a 1 1/2 inch length of pvc pipe over the hole in the center board trunk. This allowed me to install a cap on the hole which I drilled to allow the lanyard to pass through so the slop of water could be better controlled which had been entering the cabin. This pvc extension also allowed the knot in the lanyard to rise above the cenberboard trunk for easier inspection as well as clearance for the centerboard to be fully retracted. I have some pictures of this on the MSOG photo site under the boat name "AS IS". As long as you are fiddling around with the centerboard, another simple addition I installed was a 1" length of fiber reinforced rubber fuel line over the stop bolt which prevents the whole board from sliding out of the bottom of the cb trunk. This requires removing the aft bolt installed as a stopper bolt, at the bottom aft section of the cb trunk . The rubber "bumper" thus installed greatly relieves the "thunk" impact when you lower the board onto this stop. fair winds, Tom B. On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:22 AM Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
So we got our new to us M17 off the trailer, on to stands, and removed the centerboard. One problem we ran into was the centerboard wanted to drop right away. At first I thought the line was broke, but pulling with the winch showed me it wasn't. It appears that this splice is too long (about 8") so it binds up at the top before the centerboard is up fully. What is the normal connection there?
-Gerry
1974 -Gerry
On Apr 1, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gerry, A smaller knot is necessary. I use a double slip knot on mine. I also opened up the hole in the centerboard trunk where the lanyard enters the cabin and fiberglassed a 1 1/2 inch length of pvc pipe over the hole in the center board trunk. This allowed me to install a cap on the hole which I drilled to allow the lanyard to pass through so the slop of water could be better controlled which had been entering the cabin. This pvc extension also allowed the knot in the lanyard to rise above the cenberboard trunk for easier inspection as well as clearance for the centerboard to be fully retracted. I have some pictures of this on the MSOG photo site under the boat name "AS IS". As long as you are fiddling around with the centerboard, another simple addition I installed was a 1" length of fiber reinforced rubber fuel line over the stop bolt which prevents the whole board from sliding out of the bottom of the cb trunk. This requires removing the aft bolt installed as a stopper bolt, at the bottom aft section of the cb trunk . The rubber "bumper" thus installed greatly relieves the "thunk" impact when you lower the board onto this stop. fair winds, Tom B.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:22 AM Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: So we got our new to us M17 off the trailer, on to stands, and removed the centerboard. One problem we ran into was the centerboard wanted to drop right away. At first I thought the line was broke, but pulling with the winch showed me it wasn't. It appears that this splice is too long (about 8") so it binds up at the top before the centerboard is up fully. What is the normal connection there?
-Gerry
Remove the last 4" or so of core from some 3/8" double-braid and tie it to the shackle with a buntline hitch. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 12:56 PM To: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Cc: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard 1974 -Gerry
On Apr 1, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gerry, A smaller knot is necessary. I use a double slip knot on mine. I also opened up the hole in the centerboard trunk where the lanyard enters the cabin and fiberglassed a 1 1/2 inch length of pvc pipe over the hole in the center board trunk. This allowed me to install a cap on the hole which I drilled to allow the lanyard to pass through so the slop of water could be better controlled which had been entering the cabin. This pvc extension also allowed the knot in the lanyard to rise above the cenberboard trunk for easier inspection as well as clearance for the centerboard to be fully retracted. I have some pictures of this on the MSOG photo site under the boat name "AS IS". As long as you are fiddling around with the centerboard, another simple addition I installed was a 1" length of fiber reinforced rubber fuel line over the stop bolt which prevents the whole board from sliding out of the bottom of the cb trunk. This requires removing the aft bolt installed as a stopper bolt, at the bottom aft section of the cb trunk . The rubber "bumper" thus installed greatly relieves the "thunk" impact when you lower the board onto this stop. fair winds, Tom B.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:22 AM Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: So we got our new to us M17 off the trailer, on to stands, and removed the centerboard. One problem we ran into was the centerboard wanted to drop right away. At first I thought the line was broke, but pulling with the winch showed me it wasn't. It appears that this splice is too long (about 8") so it binds up at the top before the centerboard is up fully. What is the normal connection there?
-Gerry
Sounds like a good knot indeed: https://www.netknots.com/rope_knots/buntline-hitch You can also use small diameter spectra or other 'high-tech' high-strength cord (e.g. 6mm or so) without needing to remove the core to have a small knot. cheers, john On 04/01/2019 10:44 AM, swwheatley@comcast.net wrote:
Remove the last 4" or so of core from some 3/8" double-braid and tie it to the shackle with a buntline hitch.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 12:56 PM To: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Cc: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard
1974
-Gerry
On Apr 1, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gerry, A smaller knot is necessary. I use a double slip knot on mine. I also opened up the hole in the centerboard trunk where the lanyard enters the cabin and fiberglassed a 1 1/2 inch length of pvc pipe over the hole in the center board trunk. This allowed me to install a cap on the hole which I drilled to allow the lanyard to pass through so the slop of water could be better controlled which had been entering the cabin. This pvc extension also allowed the knot in the lanyard to rise above the cenberboard trunk for easier inspection as well as clearance for the centerboard to be fully retracted. I have some pictures of this on the MSOG photo site under the boat name "AS IS". As long as you are fiddling around with the centerboard, another simple addition I installed was a 1" length of fiber reinforced rubber fuel line over the stop bolt which prevents the whole board from sliding out of the bottom of the cb trunk. This requires removing the aft bolt installed as a stopper bolt, at the bottom aft section of the cb trunk . The rubber "bumper" thus installed greatly relieves the "thunk" impact when you lower the board onto this stop. fair winds, Tom B.
On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:22 AM Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: So we got our new to us M17 off the trailer, on to stands, and removed the centerboard. One problem we ran into was the centerboard wanted to drop right away. At first I thought the line was broke, but pulling with the winch showed me it wasn't. It appears that this splice is too long (about 8") so it binds up at the top before the centerboard is up fully. What is the normal connection there?
-Gerry
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
That's all great info, thanks guys. I had read about the girl running before and planned on doing that too. My stop pin/bolt was missing. Is that a threaded hole? -Gerry
On Apr 1, 2019, at 1:44 PM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Remove the last 4" or so of core from some 3/8" double-braid and tie it to the shackle with a buntline hitch.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 12:56 PM To: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Cc: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard
1974
-Gerry
On Apr 1, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gerry, A smaller knot is necessary. I use a double slip knot on mine. I also opened up the hole in the centerboard trunk where the lanyard enters the cabin and fiberglassed a 1 1/2 inch length of pvc pipe over the hole in the center board trunk. This allowed me to install a cap on the hole which I drilled to allow the lanyard to pass through so the slop of water could be better controlled which had been entering the cabin. This pvc extension also allowed the knot in the lanyard to rise above the cenberboard trunk for easier inspection as well as clearance for the centerboard to be fully retracted. I have some pictures of this on the MSOG photo site under the boat name "AS IS". As long as you are fiddling around with the centerboard, another simple addition I installed was a 1" length of fiber reinforced rubber fuel line over the stop bolt which prevents the whole board from sliding out of the bottom of the cb trunk. This requires removing the aft bolt installed as a stopper bolt, at the bottom aft section of the cb trunk . The rubber "bumper" thus installed greatly relieves the "thunk" impact when you lower the board onto this stop. fair winds, Tom B.
Not a threaded hole, not on my '74 anyhow. Hole takes a 3/8" stainless steel bolt and nylon insert locking nut, and nice to put the rubber hose over the part in the middle as Tom mentions, to remove metal on metal 'clunk'. I added that to mine while repairing some keel damage around the stop bolt a couple years ago. cheers, john On 04/01/2019 11:56 AM, Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats wrote:
That's all great info, thanks guys. I had read about the girl running before and planned on doing that too. My stop pin/bolt was missing. Is that a threaded hole?
-Gerry
On Apr 1, 2019, at 1:44 PM, <swwheatley@comcast.net> <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Remove the last 4" or so of core from some 3/8" double-braid and tie it to the shackle with a buntline hitch.
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 12:56 PM To: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Cc: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard
1974
-Gerry
On Apr 1, 2019, at 11:56 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gerry, A smaller knot is necessary. I use a double slip knot on mine. I also opened up the hole in the centerboard trunk where the lanyard enters the cabin and fiberglassed a 1 1/2 inch length of pvc pipe over the hole in the center board trunk. This allowed me to install a cap on the hole which I drilled to allow the lanyard to pass through so the slop of water could be better controlled which had been entering the cabin. This pvc extension also allowed the knot in the lanyard to rise above the cenberboard trunk for easier inspection as well as clearance for the centerboard to be fully retracted. I have some pictures of this on the MSOG photo site under the boat name "AS IS". As long as you are fiddling around with the centerboard, another simple addition I installed was a 1" length of fiber reinforced rubber fuel line over the stop bolt which prevents the whole board from sliding out of the bottom of the cb trunk. This requires removing the aft bolt installed as a stopper bolt, at the bottom aft section of the cb trunk . The rubber "bumper" thus installed greatly relieves the "thunk" impact when you lower the board onto this stop. fair winds, Tom B.
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
That sounds like a good way to go; a nice compact and secure knot. That will surely allow me to crank it up where it should be. Thanks! On Monday, April 1, 2019, 1:44:46 PM EDT, <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote: Remove the last 4" or so of core from some 3/8" double-braid and tie it to the shackle with a buntline hitch. -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com> On Behalf Of Gerry Lempicki via montgomery_boats Sent: Monday, April 1, 2019 12:56 PM To: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> Cc: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Centerboard 1974
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