Hi guys, I recently got my jiffy reefing set up installed for the main. Actually tried it out recently and worked very well. My question is at what wind speed would you consider reefing? We were in gusts from 10 to 15 mph according to the NOAA prediction. Might have had some at greater speeds. It seemed like a great opportunity to try out the system and the boat sailed great, still had the jib up. Anyone have a system for dropping the jib from the cockpit as a single hander needs to do, and keep the jib on the boat at the same time? Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617)
Hi back: Reef the main when the wind gets too strong for you to handle with full main sail. An M15 can handle more wind with two people aboard than single handing because of the additional ballast. It can handle more wind downwind than close hauled. The M15 needs a jib downhaul to pull the sail down from the cockpit for safety as well as convenience. I made the jib halyard and downhaul one continuous line made of Sta-Set™ rope, but that was just my preference. --Gary Hyde N24 'Sailabration' M17 #637 'Hydeaway2' M15 #235 'Vanilla' On Oct 04, 2005, at 6:32 PM, Seawitch wrote:
Hi guys, I recently got my jiffy reefing set up installed for the main. Actually tried it out recently and worked very well. My question is at what wind speed would you consider reefing? We were in gusts from 10 to 15 mph according to the NOAA prediction. Might have had some at greater speeds. It seemed like a great opportunity to try out the system and the boat sailed great, still had the jib up. Anyone have a system for dropping the jib from the cockpit as a single hander needs to do, and keep the jib on the boat at the same time?
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I have a downhaul on my jib, just a 1/4" line that ties to the top of the jib run through a block at the bow fitting and back to the cockpit where it runs through a cam cleat. Works very well, just release the jib halyard and pull the downhaul, jib comes down and the cam cleat holds it. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Seawitch" <seawitchlj@yahoo.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:32 PM Subject: M_Boats: Reefing
Hi guys, I recently got my jiffy reefing set up installed for the main. Actually tried it out recently and worked very well. My question is at what wind speed would you consider reefing? We were in gusts from 10 to 15 mph according to the NOAA prediction. Might have had some at greater speeds. It seemed like a great opportunity to try out the system and the boat sailed great, still had the jib up. Anyone have a system for dropping the jib from the cockpit as a single hander needs to do, and keep the jib on the boat at the same time?
Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
Windsong was previously rigged with a jib furler by teh former Owner, which was removed before he sold it to me. Now that I am using a hanked on jib, I use a downhaul led back to the cockpit through the eyes that the furler line previously used. Just keep the lines clear when hoisting. See Windsong photos on the MSOG website. Perry Quoting Seawitch <seawitchlj@yahoo.com>:
Hi guys, I recently got my jiffy reefing set up installed for the main. Actually tried it out recently and worked very well. My question is at what wind speed would you consider reefing? We were in gusts from 10 to 15 mph according to the NOAA prediction. Might have had some at greater speeds. It seemed like a great opportunity to try out the system and the boat sailed great, still had the jib up. Anyone have a system for dropping the jib from the cockpit as a single hander needs to do, and keep the jib on the boat at the same time?
Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617) _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
When someone thinks about when to reef, perhaps a more important question is once it's time....or worse....past time....is how to safely reef. But unless you are racing and/or really know what you are doing, reef early. A good time to practice reefing is when winds are moderate....so you can screw up with nominal consequences. If you are not comfortable with that, practice it the first time while tied to the dock. If you are by yourself, and the boat is heeling too much, you have a big problem in how to leave the tiller, go the mast and do your work. Getting the jib down is only part of the solution. There seems to be two tricks. One is to heave to, which works pretty well on the M17 as the jib blankets the main. Don¹t know about the M15.....as the regular jib is so much smaller. It seems to me like some guys simply let both sheets go and let the sails luff. I have done that on the M17 and if the tiller is also let free, she just sits there beam to the wind. Tough on the sails, but a safe way to park her for a minute or so until you can get things under control. I seem to recall Bill Riker and Doug Kelch doing that once in a pretty big wind (maybe 20 knots or more), and both boats were sitting calmly on the water like ducks. Howard
Hi guys, I recently got my jiffy reefing set up installed for the main. Actually tried it out recently and worked very well. My question is at what wind speed would you consider reefing? We were in gusts from 10 to 15 mph according to the NOAA prediction. Might have had some at greater speeds. It seemed like a great opportunity to try out the system and the boat sailed great, still had the jib up. Anyone have a system for dropping the jib from the cockpit as a single hander needs to do, and keep the jib on the boat at the same time?
Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617)
My M15 heaves-too very well with the standard jib, but not so well with the genoa. --Gary Hyde N24 'Sailabration' M17 #637 'Hydeaway2' M15 #235 'Vanilla' On Oct 05, 2005, at 7:22 AM, Howard Audsley wrote:
When someone thinks about when to reef, perhaps a more important question is once it's time....or worse....past time....is how to safely reef. But unless you are racing and/or really know what you are doing, reef early. A good time to practice reefing is when winds are moderate....so you can screw up with nominal consequences. If you are not comfortable with that, practice it the first time while tied to the dock.
If you are by yourself, and the boat is heeling too much, you have a big problem in how to leave the tiller, go the mast and do your work. Getting the jib down is only part of the solution.
There seems to be two tricks. One is to heave to, which works pretty well on the M17 as the jib blankets the main. Don’t know about the M15.....as the regular jib is so much smaller. It seems to me like some guys simply let both sheets go and let the sails luff. I have done that on the M17 and if the tiller is also let free, she just sits there beam to the wind. Tough on the sails, but a safe way to park her for a minute or so until you can get things under control.
I seem to recall Bill Riker and Doug Kelch doing that once in a pretty big wind (maybe 20 knots or more), and both boats were sitting calmly on the water like ducks.
Howard
Hi guys, I recently got my jiffy reefing set up installed for the main. Actually tried it out recently and worked very well. My question is at what wind speed would you consider reefing? We were in gusts from 10 to 15 mph according to the NOAA prediction. Might have had some at greater speeds. It seemed like a great opportunity to try out the system and the boat sailed great, still had the jib up. Anyone have a system for dropping the jib from the cockpit as a single hander needs to do, and keep the jib on the boat at the same time?
Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617)
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I second Gary's comment on reefing. The M15 heaves to very well, at least with the working jib. I don't have a genny. It is great for reefing or other rigging adjustments as well as peeing, lunching or just snagging something from the cabin. It only takes a few seconds. IMHO, every M-sailor should have that simple maneuver in their skill set. Bill Riker M15 - #184 Storm Petrel -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+wriker=mindspring.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Howard Audsley Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 10:22 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Reefing When someone thinks about when to reef, perhaps a more important question is once it's time....or worse....past time....is how to safely reef. But unless you are racing and/or really know what you are doing, reef early. A good time to practice reefing is when winds are moderate....so you can screw up with nominal consequences. If you are not comfortable with that, practice it the first time while tied to the dock. If you are by yourself, and the boat is heeling too much, you have a big problem in how to leave the tiller, go the mast and do your work. Getting the jib down is only part of the solution. There seems to be two tricks. One is to heave to, which works pretty well on the M17 as the jib blankets the main. Don¹t know about the M15.....as the regular jib is so much smaller. It seems to me like some guys simply let both sheets go and let the sails luff. I have done that on the M17 and if the tiller is also let free, she just sits there beam to the wind. Tough on the sails, but a safe way to park her for a minute or so until you can get things under control. I seem to recall Bill Riker and Doug Kelch doing that once in a pretty big wind (maybe 20 knots or more), and both boats were sitting calmly on the water like ducks. Howard
Hi guys, I recently got my jiffy reefing set up installed for the main. Actually tried it out recently and worked very well. My question is at what wind speed would you consider reefing? We were in gusts from 10 to 15 mph according to the NOAA prediction. Might have had some at greater speeds. It seemed like a great opportunity to try out the system and the boat sailed great, still had the jib up. Anyone have a system for dropping the jib from the cockpit as a single hander needs to do, and keep the jib on the boat at the same time?
Time for a cool change! Sandra(Seawitch #617)
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