To:All I just can't say enough about the pleasures of cruising in an M15 :-) The Buzzards Bay cruise was the last week in August. We had 4 M15s and 1 M17 on the cruise. One M17 had to dropout as he had tow vehicle problems on the way to MA. Frank Durant had his brand new M15 and this was the first time it was launched. A real litmus test. Saturday - Sunday - were windy and rainy so we didn't leave harbor till Monday in the rain. Tod smashed his Rudder tooling around the Harbor on Sunday. Great winds and nice sail in the Rain on Monday - Sailed down to Quiset harbor which has a fleet of over 30 Hershoff 15s - all in exquisite condition. Lots of eye candy. 15 lb CQR, 4 M15s and the anchor dragged at high tide. Probably not enough scope. Short downwind sail to Hadley harbor in 20 kts on Tuesday. Picked up one of the free mooring from the Forbes family. Met up with Tod that night. His Ida rudder arrived and was a perfect fit. His self steering worked all the way down the Bay. Wednesday a great sunny sailing day out to Oak Bluffs on Martha's vineyard. Calm night so we stayed rafted up in 24 ft of water - wind kicked up out of the N (a bad direction) around 12:30 AM. We had 200ft of line out with a 15 lb CQR but dragged anyway. A mad scramble to break up the raft. Regrouped in the Morning and with tropical storm Ernesto heading our way we went all of the way to Cuttyhunk on Thursday - averaged 6 knots for 25 NM with a tail wind and favorable current. A nice stay at Cuttyhunk and everyone got out in thier inflatables and hiked around town. The evening forcast confirmed Ernesto was heading our way with 40 kt gusts so on Friday we sailed back to Fairhaven in 18 kt winds, 5 degrees off the wind. Another nice sail with an occasional 5 ft wave. Pulled out Friday PM and had a nice dinner a local seafood restaurant. Typical Buzzards Bay wind strength that required a reef most days. All in a wet but good trip. Thanks Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" M15 #310 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Now that I have the furler off, it is staying off. I would like to replace the CDI FF2 furler and North 150 with a new hanked on 150.....so the furler and sail are for sail....I mean sale. I will eventually make up a small webpage with pix , but anyone that is interested in details and price just email me off list. I am just heading off to work so won't be able to respond until later this evening. tim@timtone.com Tim Diebert Kelowna BC M17 #369
Has anyone replaced the plexiglass windows on a M-17? Are there any particular issues that need to be addressed? Silicone Vs. Polysulfide for gasketing? Fasteners? Particular bevel to the window? I have a persistant leak through a cracked screw hole on my boat, and I don't want to just slather goo on top of it. Any and all suggestions will be considered and appreciated. Thomas Howe, 1985 M-17 Osprey II
Your first Osprey maintained chronic leads on those windows. I finally took them off and to an auto glass place to have the gasket material replaced. We searched high and low and could not find something that would work. Talked about just bedding them in goo, but wasn't sure we could get them bedded flush to the frame, where they would stay put. After checking on replacements with Bob (no joy...different design), I made new windows out of 1/4" Lexan and through bolted them on, similar to the surface mount windows now being used. Wood frames on the inside as backing material, although that is probably not needed. Just cleans up the look. I bedded one in silicone and another in a special sealing tape a friend had (they make the stuff). Both have held and have not leaded a drop. Bob said to use Polysulfide, but all your plastic folks say to use nothing but silicone. I used black and it looks like a custom made gasket material. For the bolts, I used cup washers on the outside. Looks good and is no longer leaking. Howard On Oct 16, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Thomas Howe wrote:
Has anyone replaced the plexiglass windows on a M-17? Are there any particular issues that need to be addressed? Silicone Vs. Polysulfide for gasketing? Fasteners? Particular bevel to the window? I have a persistant leak through a cracked screw hole on my boat, and I don't want to just slather goo on top of it. Any and all suggestions will be considered and appreciated. Thomas Howe, 1985 M-17 Osprey II
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Thanks, Howard. Yes, window leaks have been a continous theme for me, my Pearson Ariel in Maine suffers as well. The 78 model had windows in aluminum fromes, my current boat is flush mounted. I think that I'll take them to the glass shop and have them copied in Lex or Plex. I've heard that silicone is the devils material, that it leaches into the Fglass and prevents anything from sticking in the future. In this application, where there is a mechanical seal from the machine screws, I don't think that that matters. I'll fill the list in on my findings. TH -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+thomas=tehowe.com@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+thomas=tehowe.com@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Howard Audsley Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 4:16 PM To: Thomas@TEHowe.com; For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Repair Question Your first Osprey maintained chronic leads on those windows. I finally took them off and to an auto glass place to have the gasket material replaced. We searched high and low and could not find something that would work. Talked about just bedding them in goo, but wasn't sure we could get them bedded flush to the frame, where they would stay put. After checking on replacements with Bob (no joy...different design), I made new windows out of 1/4" Lexan and through bolted them on, similar to the surface mount windows now being used. Wood frames on the inside as backing material, although that is probably not needed. Just cleans up the look. I bedded one in silicone and another in a special sealing tape a friend had (they make the stuff). Both have held and have not leaded a drop. Bob said to use Polysulfide, but all your plastic folks say to use nothing but silicone. I used black and it looks like a custom made gasket material. For the bolts, I used cup washers on the outside. Looks good and is no longer leaking. Howard On Oct 16, 2006, at 2:39 PM, Thomas Howe wrote:
Has anyone replaced the plexiglass windows on a M-17? Are there any particular issues that need to be addressed? Silicone Vs. Polysulfide for gasketing? Fasteners? Particular bevel to the window? I have a persistant leak through a cracked screw hole on my boat, and I don't want to just slather goo on top of it. Any and all suggestions will be considered and appreciated. Thomas Howe, 1985 M-17 Osprey II
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