Re: M_Boats: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 1
Watch the tides and ramp lengths for the Chesapeake Bay. You will love the sailing though. Good luck Smiley Karen & Smiley Magoo252@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Monday, May 1, 2017 2:00 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: montgomery_boats Digest, Vol 171, Issue 1 Send montgomery_boats mailing list submissions to montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to montgomery_boats-request@mailman.xmission.com You can reach the person managing the list at montgomery_boats-owner@mailman.xmission.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of montgomery_boats digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Monty in Chesapeake (sheppardtb@yahoo.com) 2. Re: Launch day! (Mark Dvorscak) 3. Re: Monty in Chesapeake (Steve Trapp) 4. Re: Monty in Chesapeake (Douglas Kelch) 5. Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Daniel Rich) 6. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Bob Eeg) 7. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Daniel Rich) 8. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Bob Eeg) 9. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Daniel Rich) 10. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Bob Eeg) 11. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Daniel Rich) 12. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Bob Eeg) 13. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Daniel Rich) 14. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (John Schinnerer) 15. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Thomas Buzzi) 16. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Robbin Roddewig) 17. Re: Monty in Chesapeake (Michael Murphy) 18. Re: Monty in Chesapeake (wcampion@aol.com) 19. Re: Racing in breezy conditions (STANLEY WHEATLEY) 20. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (STANLEY WHEATLEY) 21. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Thomas Buzzi) 22. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Daniel Rich) 23. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Thomas Buzzi) 24. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Bob Eeg) 25. Re: Racing in breezy conditions (jerry@jerrymontgomery.org) 26. Re: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound (Daniel Rich) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:12:06 -0400 From: sheppardtb@yahoo.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Monty in Chesapeake Message-ID: <00DB7D1D-2AFE-4E23-9D60-BA7B8C072093@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I'm hoping to trailer my Monty 15 from Marmora NJ to sail for first time on Eastern Shore of Maryland. Any advise on marinas,or ,for that matter anything else. Planning Sept. trip for a week to ten days. Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:04:54 -0700 From: Mark Dvorscak <mdvorscak56@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launch day! Message-ID: <CAA3iV0KDTUcj7oG3QF+7aP1VB7TdU7C86YWsMZcWyTqvX9zewQ@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Our plan is to be in the islands the first two weeks of July this year. On Apr 30, 2017 08:46, "Larry Yake" <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
Ah, that makes more sense. I missed the change of venue. If Jerry drives like he sails, Winchester Bay would be about a 5 hour drive! Sounds like a great sail, Mark. Are you going to be in the San Juans this year? I'll be there in June and again in September.
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 9:46 PM, Mark Dvorscak <mdvorscak56@gmail.com> wrote:
Two different places Larry. Jerry switched gears on us as he was reminiscing with John. The Don Carlos race is in Mexico, I do believe. The salmon fishing isn't too good right now, the commercial crabbing is winding down (although the recreational crabbing is still active). Fresh Dungeness and a stout sounds mighty good. I might just indulge myself! Sailing was pleasant today, the bar crossing was uneventful, the sun was shining, about a for foot swell running out of the west and the wind was steady. My best friend and sailing buddy, Ian, was with me and his wife had packed is a great lunch. It was a wonderful start to our sailing season. Mark Dvorscak
On Apr 29, 2017 20:41, "Larry Yake" <larryyake@gmail.com> wrote:
A three day drive from Sacramento to Winchester Bay? Isn't that only about a 500 mile trip? Traffic must really be horrible down there! Maybe I'm thinking about the wrong place, or else Jerry drives with a whole different mindset from when he's sailing. :-)
On Sat, Apr 29, 2017 at 1:04 PM, <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> wrote:
You're bring up some good memories for me, too, John. I was born and raised in W. OR, ad when I was a kid we used to go to Win Bay and fish, mostly for salmon but also other fish. Catching salmon was a thrill, but I also remember the ice cold water; our feet would get numb playing in the surf.
I also have vivid memories of my first Dan Carlos race; a bunch of us, including you, caravanned down. You had a Venture 17 (can't remember the name) and I had a M-17 flush deck. A great time! 'd love to do the race again, but it's just too far for me to tow a boat; a three day drive from here in Sacatomatoes. The lake Pleasant race is far enough!
The best to you! Stay out of the heat.
-----Original Message----- From: jslubliner--- via montgomery_boats Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 12:22 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com
Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launch day!
Mark, as I am in the yard trimming the Fan Palms here in sunny, windy Tucson, I am well aware that you are enjoying two of my favorite places: On deck of your own boat and at Winchester Bay. I remember a few years ago when Anne and I were at WB in our 5th wheel, you and your wife spent a very enjoyable afternoon with us.
We wish you a great sailing season. I don't remember if it currently 'tis the season', but if so, enjoy some of those dungeness crab and perhaps an Imperial Stout Ale as well.
John & Anne fmr FD17 #69 Coyote Tucson, Az
-----Original Message----- From: GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1@mac.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmis sion.com> Sent: Sat, Apr 29, 2017 11:24 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Launch day!
Happy sailing!
~~~_/)~~~ Gary Sent from my iPhone :-)
On Apr 29, 2017, at 9:03 AM, Mark Dvorscak <mdvorscak56@gmail.com> wrote:
On my way to Winchester Bay to return Faith to her slip now that
the long,
wet, stormy winter has mostly passed. Might even? get out on? to the big pond today if all goes well. Mark M23 Faith
------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:19:52 -0700 From: "Steve Trapp" <stevetrapp@Q.com> To: <sheppardtb@yahoo.com>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Monty in Chesapeake Message-ID: <4C683468655E4F1495A0010CFDE0D455@HPPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Get your trailer wheel bearings greased and check the tires before departing, then pressure wash the trailer and the boat after ouhauling from salt water and grease the bearings again. Steve M-15 # 335 South Puget Sound -----Original Message----- From: Tom Sheppard via montgomery_boats Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 12:12 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Monty in Chesapeake I'm hoping to trailer my Monty 15 from Marmora NJ to sail for first time on Eastern Shore of Maryland. Any advise on marinas,or ,for that matter anything else. Planning Sept. trip for a week to ten days. Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:32:25 -0700 From: Douglas Kelch <doug1kelch@gmail.com> To: sheppardtb@yahoo.com, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Monty in Chesapeake Message-ID: <CAFLA6DaD30==uezLzqfPDpe3X-A9TaVTFe-pqhAvOp7cVnxwQw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Tom, What kind of cruise did you have in mind. Sleeping on the boat in quite isolated coves or hopping from Marina to Marina? There are not a lot of Marinas on the Eastern shore which makes it a great cruising ground in my opinion. Thanks Doug Kelch M15G #310 "Seas the Day" On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Tom Sheppard via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I'm hoping to trailer my Monty 15 from Marmora NJ to sail for first time on Eastern Shore of Maryland. Any advise on marinas,or ,for that matter anything else. Planning Sept. trip for a week to ten days.
Sent from my iPad
------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:58:43 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <D6DDE7DD-1423-489C-8558-FE324C87F7FD@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Montypals: Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP. So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts? Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 04:15:49 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <BN6PR17MB1522E269551E4BFF01217112B7140@BN6PR17MB1522.namprd17.prod.outlook. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Daniel I like these 2 products that we use. (google) Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing) Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new Be well Bob Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 21:17:32 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <65153DF7-C75A-4D2B-BB4B-410AA402583C@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for the quick response Bob! OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else? Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 04:20:15 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <BN6PR17MB1522E9395938F16CAEE43448B7140@BN6PR17MB1522.namprd17.prod.outlook. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Get a proper buffer with a large pad. Worth the $39 bucks. Blue tape the teak And go to work. Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 21:22:44 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <BADF86B4-860B-4E0C-BC5C-257684D3511E@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 OK, makes sense. Looks like something like this could work? https://smile.amazon.com/Black-Decker-WP900-6-Inch-Polisher/dp/B000077CPT/re f=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493612482&sr=8-1&keywords=buffer <https://smile.amazon.com/Black-Decker-WP900-6-Inch-Polisher/dp/B000077CPT/r ef=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493612482&sr=8-1&keywords=buffer> Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Get a proper buffer with a large pad. Worth the $39 bucks. Blue tape the teak And go to work.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 04:23:17 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <BN6PR17MB15220D2AAE9FEB2FD94E26D0B7140@BN6PR17MB1522.namprd17.prod.outlook. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long. Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 21:24:27 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <7F7835A2-BC1B-4765-B15E-91FC81F51223@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC. Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper? Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com
------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 04:28:26 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <BN6PR17MB1522E77D658579C6B22A2067B7140@BN6PR17MB1522.namprd17.prod.outlook. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with Velcro. Teak https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118 Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC. Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper? Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote: Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long. Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks for the quick response Bob! OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else? Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote: Daniel I like these 2 products that we use. (google) Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing) Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new Be well Bob Sent from my iPad On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote: Montypals: Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP. So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts? Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com> ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 21:49:29 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <73416F30-267F-4D4F-8566-968BCC0A093E@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I will check that out. The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it. Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with Velcro.
Teak https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
------------------------------ Message: 14 Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 22:00:03 -0700 From: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <e1adc13b-73cf-e71b-0ecc-47c6f01d02e9@eco-living.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed I'm about finished re-doing all the exterior wood on my M17. It was varnished with something rather thick and Cetol-colored, sort of, peeling in the most exposed places, solid in the protected places. I have aluminum toe rails so the only exterior wood is hatch ribs, hatch sliders, companionway board holders, and cabin top hand rails. This is all done with pieces removed from boat. So no risk of stripper chemical messing with other materials. I've been using a regular stripping chemical - Kleen-Strip I think is the brand I bought. That takes a lot of the elbow grease out of getting most of it off. May take a few passes for the thickly coated parts (if yours is like mine). First pass gets most of it; second pass gets the thicker parts the first pass didn't penetrate to. And still some manual scraping and/or wire-brushing. I am re-finishing with teak oil. After stripping and sanding: 2 applications Daly's Seafil Ship-n-Shore sealer. 5 applications Daly's Seafin teak oil. Have done all but the cabin top handrails - those are just about stripped. The rest are finished and back on the boat. Comes out looking really great. cheers, John S. On 04/30/2017 09:49 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with Velcro.
Teak https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000 to shine It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com ------------------------------ Message: 15 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 00:36:16 -0500 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWaGpy6G86+ihUEJE8GZKXB0JVG1B0Oz8qcU9PPVTsq-g@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 I tried one of those polymer coatings for boats. Used "NewGlass2". My yellow hull hadn't been touched in at least seven years. The product advises you use something like "Softscurb" from the supermarket to remove any oxidation that would come off on your finger by touching the hull. Wash and rinse well. Let dry any oxidation remaining should be gone over with some wet or dry sandpaper wrapped around a wet sponge with plenty of water. Once that is done and rinsed use the applicator supplied and apply just wipe on at least five coats of the polymer.Don't sand too much getting off the oxidation since the polymer will just draw the remaining oxidation down into the porous gelcoat as it is applied. My yellow hull was cleaned as above. I then applied the polymer with the supplied squeegee. It takes about ten minutes to coat the hull of a 17. After the first coat go back to the starting place and start recoating again. It drys quickly. Try not to apply so much that you get drips. They are hard to remove without cleaning off all the polymer. Here the strakes in the hull are an advantage since the applicator just covers one width of a strake so one stroke applies a very nice application. Overlap slightly where you stopped your last stroke to blend in the subsequent strokes. It goes very quickly and is very satisfying to watch the deeeep luster build up right before your eyes. My hull looks just like the day I finished applying the polymer and that was three years ago. It took me about an hour or so to put on seven coats. I am not affiliated with this company, just a happy customer. Their number is 800-785-7675. Nice folks. One quart will do about four monty 17's or one Monty 4 times over the years. It is very easy to do the hull this way. No buffing. Check the Monty photo site under "AS-IS" to see a comparison of the starboard and port sides of the hull, half way though doing the hull. This is actually a fun process. Fair winds, Tom B ------------------------------ Message: 16 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 06:57:08 -0400 From: Robbin Roddewig <robbin.roddewig@verizon.net> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <15bc3a8258a-fca-10afc@webprd-a22.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Daniel I have a Makita circular buffer that works very well on my M-23. I use the 3-M cleaner wax combo or compound wax combo on my boat depending on the state of the gel coat. I think there may be more effective products but these seem to work well. Then I like the 3-M past wax which is most effective with a power buffer. The laps get in the way as they do on every hull project but the circular buffer works well. It is very much worth the money. Robbin M-23 pinch me (Monty owner until it sells) Robbin Roddewig robbin.roddewig@verizon.net -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, May 1, 2017 12:00 am Subject: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Montypals: Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while I build my SCAMP. So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts? Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com ------------------------------ Message: 17 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 08:53:51 -0400 From: Michael Murphy <paulaandmike48@gmail.com> To: sheppardtb@yahoo.com, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Monty in Chesapeake Message-ID: <CAAPTC46D1g0CsRJfJRW1OCt=Dao-5qmZOLmJ3D-4vkzn3OmD1A@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Tom, I've had some nice cruises on the Eastern shore. If you are planning to use a public launch ramp be aware that many of them are County owned and you'll need a local permit for the ramp. These are easy to get by contacting the county. Also, many sporting goods and bait shops sell them. There is a large state park ramp near the western side of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge on the northern bay. From there it is a short hop across to the Eastern shore. Kent Narrows also has a free public ramp under the Highway bridge there. It is a good jump of point for the Chester River area, the Eastern Bay, and the Choptank Rvers. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Tom Sheppard via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I'm hoping to trailer my Monty 15 from Marmora NJ to sail for first time on Eastern Shore of Maryland. Any advise on marinas,or ,for that matter anything else. Planning Sept. trip for a week to ten days.
Sent from my iPad
------------------------------ Message: 18 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 10:09:06 -0400 From: wcampion@aol.com To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Monty in Chesapeake Message-ID: <15bc457e3f6-5aa3-11b97@webprd-m46.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Tom, I've had the pleasure of sailing with both Mike and Doug. They're good sailors and they know the bay. I've lived in Md my whole life and can probably help you locate what you're looking for. You can contact me 'off list' and we can discuss your goal and tentative plans. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Michael Murphy <paulaandmike48@gmail.com> To: sheppardtb <sheppardtb@yahoo.com>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, May 1, 2017 8:54 am Subject: Re: M_Boats: Monty in Chesapeake Tom, I've had some nice cruises on the Eastern shore. If you are planning to use a public launch ramp be aware that many of them are County owned and you'll need a local permit for the ramp. These are easy to get by contacting the county. Also, many sporting goods and bait shops sell them. There is a large state park ramp near the western side of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge on the northern bay. From there it is a short hop across to the Eastern shore. Kent Narrows also has a free public ramp under the Highway bridge there. It is a good jump of point for the Chester River area, the Eastern Bay, and the Choptank Rvers. On Sun, Apr 30, 2017 at 3:12 PM, Tom Sheppard via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I'm hoping to trailer my Monty 15 from Marmora NJ to sail for first time on Eastern Shore of Maryland. Any advise on marinas,or ,for that matter anything else. Planning Sept. trip for a week to ten days.
Sent from my iPad
------------------------------ Message: 19 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 11:35:13 -0400 (EDT) From: STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Racing in breezy conditions Message-ID: <283177476.618266.1493652913786@connect.xfinity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reefing the genoa adversely impacts the boat's ability to point but reefing the main does not. So, all other things being equal, reef the main first. A fully deployed 135, however, will be a handful in a 20 kt breeze. Hopefully you have some burly crew.
On April 30, 2017 at 9:41 AM Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
GO, Jerry, and all the professional M17 racers out there, I need some advice. I sail my M17, Lynne L, in club races every Tuesday evening and occasional weekend regattas. I sail with a 135% genoa with a padded luff. Racing in the 15 - 20 kt wind range I find that I'm often overpowered if I keep both sails unreefed/unfurled, so I'm sailing a lot of the time with a luff in the main. I have the option to reef the main, which allows me to sail without depowering. A third option is to leave the main unreefed and take a few turns on the jib furler. The boat seems to sail pretty well under any of the three options, but it's hard to compare the performance of the three. Does anyone have any a priori opinions as to which, if any, is the best approach?
Thanks,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
------------------------------ Message: 20 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 11:46:42 -0400 (EDT) From: STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <1521750408.619293.1493653603233@connect.xfinity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg
<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
Teak
https://www.jamestowndistributors.com/userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich
<danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg
<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do a
large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich
<danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad on
my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg
<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff 2000
to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich
<danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected while
I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it. Should
I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
------------------------------ Message: 21 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 12:05:37 -0500 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net>, For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <CA+TbpAW3u4WZi43uhGQ1JJSibiX+Za+T2hcXDWjoKvCnPiw6Fw@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary. On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
------------------------------ Message: 22 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 10:09:54 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <a35446f8-fb72-7dba-39ba-e9df1f6130d3@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it. Daniel On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
------------------------------ Message: 23 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 12:14:12 -0500 From: Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <CA+TbpAWDCSWKFKvOzKCFdYmzfYiXtJV+AH9oDeZv66Gtz+tR0w@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 True, I was referring more to the hatch slides and hand rails. etc. My 1977 has the metal, perforated toe rails. I did take those off and filled any fissures between the deck and the hull in that joint to make sure I didn't get any weeping leaks from there. On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 12:09 PM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote:
If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net
wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a
Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think
I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
Teak
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with
a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think
the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich
M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
------------------------------ Message: 24 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 17:14:25 +0000 From: Bob Eeg <montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <BN6PR17MB1522CBD44A78872D9B36AAD6B7140@BN6PR17MB1522.namprd17.prod.outlook. com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I agree with Tom but removing the toe rails would require popping out the teak plugs. And replacing them with new plugs. Not a big deal but more work. Some plugs won't come out perfectly and you end up chipping the radius. Bob Sent from my iPad
On May 1, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think I
need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
> >
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on with
Velcro.
userportal/show_product.do?pid=9118
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with a
cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound. Do
a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
Sent from my iPad
On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
>
------------------------------ Message: 25 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 10:32:00 -0700 From: <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: "STANLEY WHEATLEY" <swwheatley@comcast.net>, "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Subject: Re: M_Boats: Racing in breezy conditions Message-ID: <A4F52D67A4BE44ADAD5639DF79853450@CH002914> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original maybe get a good, strong 110 lapper and sheet it to the cabin top. Also, get a good backstay adjuster to keep the jib luff straight. You can use a Sage BS adjustor ready made. Of course, this is assuming you're not married to the jib furler. The sheeting angle of the smaller headsails is critical. I haven't looked at an M-17 for awhile, but you can probably find a good spot for the track just inside of the handrail. Be sure you measure the sheeting angle of the new track and tell the sailmaker. -----Original Message----- From: STANLEY WHEATLEY Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 8:35 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Racing in breezy conditions Reefing the genoa adversely impacts the boat's ability to point but reefing the main does not. So, all other things being equal, reef the main first. A fully deployed 135, however, will be a handful in a 20 kt breeze. Hopefully you have some burly crew.
On April 30, 2017 at 9:41 AM Rick Davies <jdavies104@gmail.com> wrote:
GO, Jerry, and all the professional M17 racers out there, I need some advice. I sail my M17, Lynne L, in club races every Tuesday evening and occasional weekend regattas. I sail with a 135% genoa with a padded luff. Racing in the 15 - 20 kt wind range I find that I'm often overpowered if I keep both sails unreefed/unfurled, so I'm sailing a lot of the time with a luff in the main. I have the option to reef the main, which allows me to sail without depowering. A third option is to leave the main unreefed and take a few turns on the jib furler. The boat seems to sail pretty well under any of the three options, but it's hard to compare the performance of the three. Does anyone have any a priori opinions as to which, if any, is the best approach?
Thanks,
Rick M17 #633 Lynne L
------------------------------ Message: 26 Date: Mon, 1 May 2017 10:35:09 -0700 From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Cleaning the hull with rubbing compound Message-ID: <7bc3a234-4f07-b069-dc58-6dd9ae80f0a6@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Well, not looking for a yacht quality job, so I will give it a go on the boat. Daniel On 5/1/2017 10:14 AM, Bob Eeg wrote:
I agree with Tom but removing the toe rails would require popping out the teak plugs.
And replacing them with new plugs. Not a big deal but more work. Some plugs won't come out perfectly and you end up chipping the radius.
Bob
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On May 1, 2017, at 10:10 AM, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Well, getting the toe rails off will be a pain. I will probably do it in place. I may regret it.
Daniel
On 5/1/2017 10:05 AM, Thomas Buzzi wrote: If you take the teak off the boat it will be a LOT easier to deal with. Most old teak needs to be rebedded anyway. Don't know what happened to my email about "New Glass 2" but that is what I used and it was very easy to get a magnificent, long lasting shine! I don't sell the stuff but I certainly will use it again when that becomes necessary.
On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 10:46 AM, STANLEY WHEATLEY <swwheatley@comcast.net> wrote:
Best way to strip an old finish is a heat gun and a good scraper like a Bahco/Sandvik.
On May 1, 2017 at 12:49 AM Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com>
wrote:
I will check that out.
The teak has something on it like Cetol. Peeling off. So, I think
I need some sort of mechanical removal of it. Maybe I will just have to sand it.
Daniel
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On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote:
Not a fan of a sponge try to get a rotating rug. Held on
with Velcro.
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On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
This is good to know. My Monty needs some TLC.
Now, what about the teak? A total mess. Should I scrape with
a cabinet scraper?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:23 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Also get an old windex to mist some water on the compound.
Do a large section at a time. It cuts fast and doesn't take long.
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On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:17 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks for the quick response Bob!
OK, I will check them out. Can I get away with a buffing pad
on my portable drill, or do I need an edge grinder or something else?
Daniel On Apr 30, 2017, at 9:15 PM, Bob Eeg <
montgomeryboats@hotmail.com<mailto:montgomeryboats@hotmail.com>> wrote:
Daniel
I like these 2 products that we use.
(google)
Aqua Buff 1000. (Cutting) Aqua Buff 2000 (finishing)
Yes a machine . In the final stage we add some yellow wax to the Aqua Buff
2000 to shine
It up like new
Be well Bob
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On Apr 30, 2017, at 8:59 PM, Daniel Rich <
danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>> wrote:
Montypals:
Man, my Monty has lots of oxidation. It has been neglected
while I build my SCAMP.
So, I want to rub out the hull, but I have never done it.
Should I do it by hand, or use some kind of buffing machine? I think the laps will get in the way. Thoughts?
Daniel Rich M15 #208 "Kestrel" danielgrich@gmail.com<mailto:danielgrich@gmail.com>
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