Just returning from a few days in San Diego on a trip with a higher than normal disaster factor, even for me. Most of it was not boat related, so I won't bore you with it. I did come close to pranging my boat by, first, trying to motor onto the trailer in a stiff crosswind, and second, failing to recognize that it wasn't working and looking for a new plan. As usual I'm learning a lot, all of it just a bit late.
What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of experience which then generates good experience???? Of course you can rent a slip.....🤔 <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2322-a> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2322-a> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:19 AM, David Rifkind <drifkind@acm.org> wrote:
Just returning from a few days in San Diego on a trip with a higher than normal disaster factor, even for me. Most of it was not boat related, so I won't bore you with it. I did come close to pranging my boat by, first, trying to motor onto the trailer in a stiff crosswind, and second, failing to recognize that it wasn't working and looking for a new plan.
As usual I'm learning a lot, all of it just a bit late.
Dud you see the scrape marks from my rudder on the ramp? Lol Jazz On Jun 12, 2016 9:32 AM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of experience which then generates good experience???? Of course you can rent a slip.....🤔
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On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 10:19 AM, David Rifkind <drifkind@acm.org> wrote:
Just returning from a few days in San Diego on a trip with a higher than normal disaster factor, even for me. Most of it was not boat related, so I won't bore you with it. I did come close to pranging my boat by, first, trying to motor onto the trailer in a stiff crosswind, and second, failing to recognize that it wasn't working and looking for a new plan.
As usual I'm learning a lot, all of it just a bit late.
On Jun 12, 2016, at 12:38 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
Dud you see the scrape marks from my rudder on the ramp? Lol
There were a couple of harbor seals playing around the ramp when I came in. When it was all over I heard them whispering to each other. “Don’t stare,” one of them said. “It’s not polite. He’s probably just a little, you know. Challenged."
On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of experience which then generates good experience????
You mean, good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement? I dunno, I may just be a highly experienced idiot. I feel like the whole trailer thing isn’t as good as it should be. Mine has to go *way* into the water, using a 14’ chain as an extension, to launch. I think the boat sits too high, and isn’t helped by the couple of inches I added replacing the rollers. If a ramp has a 12% slope, every 1-1/2” of boat height is another foot down the ramp you have to go. Also, as the stern starts to float, the bow comes down, and at the extreme rests on the spare tire. It seems like, for the boat to go on and off the trailer neatly, it should be closer to level when it’s *on* the ramp. Maybe it should sit with the bow down, or at least lower, on level ground. On the driveway my boat sits with the bottom of the keel 17” off the ground, and the tip of the prow (for lack of a better point to measure) at 70”. I wonder how that compares to other trailers out there.
I think it’s the quote below. GARY ~~~~_/) ~~~~ Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
On Jun 12, 2016, at 3:22 PM, David Rifkind <drifkind@acm.org> wrote:
On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of experience which then generates good experience????
You mean, good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement? I dunno, I may just be a highly experienced idiot.
I feel like the whole trailer thing isn’t as good as it should be. Mine has to go *way* into the water, using a 14’ chain as an extension, to launch.
I think the boat sits too high, and isn’t helped by the couple of inches I added replacing the rollers. If a ramp has a 12% slope, every 1-1/2” of boat height is another foot down the ramp you have to go. Also, as the stern starts to float, the bow comes down, and at the extreme rests on the spare tire. It seems like, for the boat to go on and off the trailer neatly, it should be closer to level when it’s *on* the ramp. Maybe it should sit with the bow down, or at least lower, on level ground.
On the driveway my boat sits with the bottom of the keel 17” off the ground, and the tip of the prow (for lack of a better point to measure) at 70”. I wonder how that compares to other trailers out there.
Yeah, thanks, Gary. That has always worked for me too! Haven't lost another mast in 40 years. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2322-b> Virus-free <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2322-b> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 5:40 PM, GARY M HYDE <gmhyde1@mac.com> wrote:
I think it’s the quote below. GARY ~~~~_/) ~~~~ Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
On Jun 12, 2016, at 3:22 PM, David Rifkind <drifkind@acm.org> wrote:
On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of experience which then generates good experience????
You mean, good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement? I dunno, I may just be a highly experienced idiot.
I feel like the whole trailer thing isn’t as good as it should be. Mine has to go *way* into the water, using a 14’ chain as an extension, to launch.
I think the boat sits too high, and isn’t helped by the couple of inches I added replacing the rollers. If a ramp has a 12% slope, every 1-1/2” of boat height is another foot down the ramp you have to go. Also, as the stern starts to float, the bow comes down, and at the extreme rests on the spare tire. It seems like, for the boat to go on and off the trailer neatly, it should be closer to level when it’s *on* the ramp. Maybe it should sit with the bow down, or at least lower, on level ground.
On the driveway my boat sits with the bottom of the keel 17” off the ground, and the tip of the prow (for lack of a better point to measure) at 70”. I wonder how that compares to other trailers out there.
Yeah, that's it. Good experience, bad judgment, er... what you said.😀😄 I put an 11'extension on my trailer tongue that telescopes out at the ramp but now I have to be concerned by the angle at the top of the ramp in relation to the level ground. While backing down I can "highside" that apex with the wagon tongue when my truck is on the flat ground and the trailer is on the slope of the ramp. What's a sailor to do????? Most ramps in SE Texas are designed around flat bottom bass boats so I usually have to submerge the back end of my truck to be able to float my boat, a Monty 17. But then there is that magic moment when the first puff of breeze fills the sails and she slides forward with a gurgle, as if by sorcery. Tom B <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2322-a> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2322-a> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 5:22 PM, David Rifkind <drifkind@acm.org> wrote:
On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of experience which then generates good experience????
You mean, good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement? I dunno, I may just be a highly experienced idiot.
I feel like the whole trailer thing isn’t as good as it should be. Mine has to go *way* into the water, using a 14’ chain as an extension, to launch.
I think the boat sits too high, and isn’t helped by the couple of inches I added replacing the rollers. If a ramp has a 12% slope, every 1-1/2” of boat height is another foot down the ramp you have to go. Also, as the stern starts to float, the bow comes down, and at the extreme rests on the spare tire. It seems like, for the boat to go on and off the trailer neatly, it should be closer to level when it’s *on* the ramp. Maybe it should sit with the bow down, or at least lower, on level ground.
On the driveway my boat sits with the bottom of the keel 17” off the ground, and the tip of the prow (for lack of a better point to measure) at 70”. I wonder how that compares to other trailers out there.
I find the same...bumper deep many times. Hose it and call it good! You only live once. Jazz On Jun 12, 2016 6:42 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's it. Good experience, bad judgment, er... what you said.😀😄 I put an 11'extension on my trailer tongue that telescopes out at the ramp but now I have to be concerned by the angle at the top of the ramp in relation to the level ground. While backing down I can "highside" that apex with the wagon tongue when my truck is on the flat ground and the trailer is on the slope of the ramp. What's a sailor to do????? Most ramps in SE Texas are designed around flat bottom bass boats so I usually have to submerge the back end of my truck to be able to float my boat, a Monty 17. But then there is that magic moment when the first puff of breeze fills the sails and she slides forward with a gurgle, as if by sorcery. Tom B
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On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 5:22 PM, David Rifkind <drifkind@acm.org> wrote:
On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of experience which then generates good experience????
You mean, good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes from bad judgement? I dunno, I may just be a highly experienced idiot.
I feel like the whole trailer thing isn’t as good as it should be. Mine has to go *way* into the water, using a 14’ chain as an extension, to launch.
I think the boat sits too high, and isn’t helped by the couple of inches
I
added replacing the rollers. If a ramp has a 12% slope, every 1-1/2” of boat height is another foot down the ramp you have to go. Also, as the stern starts to float, the bow comes down, and at the extreme rests on the spare tire. It seems like, for the boat to go on and off the trailer neatly, it should be closer to level when it’s *on* the ramp. Maybe it should sit with the bow down, or at least lower, on level ground.
On the driveway my boat sits with the bottom of the keel 17” off the ground, and the tip of the prow (for lack of a better point to measure) at 70”. I wonder how that compares to other trailers out there.
OH, didn't I mention that my toe vehicle is an all stainless steel DeLaurean? NOT. <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2322-b> Virus-free <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2322-b> <#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 9:15 PM, Jazzy <jazzydaze@gmail.com> wrote:
I find the same...bumper deep many times. Hose it and call it good! You only live once.
Jazz On Jun 12, 2016 6:42 PM, "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, that's it. Good experience, bad judgment, er... what you said.😀😄 I put an 11'extension on my trailer tongue that telescopes out at the ramp but now I have to be concerned by the angle at the top of the ramp in relation to the level ground. While backing down I can "highside" that apex with the wagon tongue when my truck is on the flat ground and the trailer is on the slope of the ramp. What's a sailor to do????? Most ramps in SE Texas are designed around flat bottom bass boats so I usually have to submerge the back end of my truck to be able to float my boat, a Monty
But then there is that magic moment when the first puff of breeze fills the sails and she slides forward with a gurgle, as if by sorcery. Tom B
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On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 5:22 PM, David Rifkind <drifkind@acm.org> wrote:
On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:31 AM, Thomas Buzzi <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> wrote:
What's that old saying about bad experiences resulting from lack of experience which then generates good experience????
You mean, good judgement comes from experience, and experience comes
from
bad judgement? I dunno, I may just be a highly experienced idiot.
I feel like the whole trailer thing isn’t as good as it should be. Mine has to go *way* into the water, using a 14’ chain as an extension, to launch.
I think the boat sits too high, and isn’t helped by the couple of inches I added replacing the rollers. If a ramp has a 12% slope, every 1-1/2” of boat height is another foot down the ramp you have to go. Also, as the stern starts to float, the bow comes down, and at the extreme rests on the spare tire. It seems like, for the boat to go on and off the trailer neatly, it should be closer to level when it’s *on* the ramp. Maybe it should sit with the bow down, or at least lower, on level ground.
On the driveway my boat sits with the bottom of the keel 17” off the ground, and the tip of the prow (for lack of a better point to measure) at 70”. I wonder how that compares to other trailers out there.
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