On the subject of M15 knockdowns, I'm thinking seriously of taking the M15 out this spring and deliberately pushing her to the point of a flat-out knockdown. First of all, I'd like to see just what it would take to have that happen, to find out how far she can be pushed. Also, I'd like to try to see how far over she can go and still right herself. Finally, I just want the practice in righting her, if necessary -- I'd rather learn that skill on a nice day, a hundred yards from shore than in the middle of a storm with no land in sight. Any comments? Anybody ever tried it?
Hi Murray,
After rereading your description of your knockdown in the M15, let me pass along some big boat sailor advice.
All sail locker lids should be gasketed (use closed cell foam rubber strips) to prevent leakage.
The sail locker lids must have some form of lock so that they can't open by themselves, as yours did.
I use a tight fitting hasp. When I leave the boat at the marina I can lock the sail lockers; and when I am sailing, the hasps fit tightly enough so that they won't inadvertently open by themselves.
If weather starts to gets rough, put in the hatch boards and close the companionway hatch. In the event of a knock down you would get some water in the cockpit, but that's all.
The ultimate name of the game is keep the water out of the boat even in knock down conditions. i.e., button up the boat to keep water from getting inside.
You may get wet; the cockpit and deck of the boat might get wet; but everything inside the boat has to stay dry.
Connie
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Some years ago my son and I were knocked down in my M23 till the spreaders were in the water by a microburst of wind on SF bay, I seem to remember that a M15 was also hit. Both boats righted OK and I only got a few gallons over the coaming. Dick s.mcclellan@attbi.com wrote:
On the subject of M15 knockdowns,
I'm thinking seriously of taking the M15 out this spring and deliberately pushing her to the point of a flat-out knockdown.
First of all, I'd like to see just what it would take to have that happen, to find out how far she can be pushed. Also, I'd like to try to see how far over she can go and still right herself. Finally, I just want the practice in righting her, if necessary -- I'd rather learn that skill on a nice day, a hundred yards from shore than in the middle of a storm with no land in sight.
Any comments? Anybody ever tried it?
Hi Murray,
After rereading your description of your knockdown in the M15, let me pass along some big boat sailor advice.
All sail locker lids should be gasketed (use closed cell foam rubber strips) to prevent leakage.
The sail locker lids must have some form of lock so that they can't open by themselves, as yours did.
I use a tight fitting hasp. When I leave the boat at the marina I can lock the sail lockers; and when I am sailing, the hasps fit tightly enough so that they won't inadvertently open by themselves.
If weather starts to gets rough, put in the hatch boards and close the companionway hatch. In the event of a knock down you would get some water in the cockpit, but that's all.
The ultimate name of the game is keep the water out of the boat even in knock down conditions. i.e., button up the boat to keep water from getting inside.
You may get wet; the cockpit and deck of the boat might get wet; but everything inside the boat has to stay dry.
Connie
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One comment: Wait 'till summer . . . The water will be warmer . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: <s.mcclellan@attbi.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:01 AM Subject: Self Righting On the subject of M15 knockdowns, I'm thinking seriously of taking the M15 out this spring and deliberately pushing her to the point of a flat-out knockdown. First of all, I'd like to see just what it would take to have that happen, to find out how far she can be pushed. Also, I'd like to try to see how far over she can go and still right herself. Finally, I just want the practice in righting her, if necessary -- I'd rather learn that skill on a nice day, a hundred yards from shore than in the middle of a storm with no land in sight. Any comments? Anybody ever tried it?
Hi Murray,
After rereading your description of your knockdown in the M15, let me pass along some big boat sailor advice.
All sail locker lids should be gasketed (use closed cell foam rubber strips) to prevent leakage.
The sail locker lids must have some form of lock so that they can't open by themselves, as yours did.
I use a tight fitting hasp. When I leave the boat at the marina I can lock the sail lockers; and when I am sailing, the hasps fit tightly enough so that they won't inadvertently open by themselves.
If weather starts to gets rough, put in the hatch boards and close the companionway hatch. In the event of a knock down you would get some water in the cockpit, but that's all.
The ultimate name of the game is keep the water out of the boat even in knock down conditions. i.e., button up the boat to keep water from getting inside.
You may get wet; the cockpit and deck of the boat might get wet; but everything inside the boat has to stay dry.
Connie
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Several years ago a friend of mine took his Catalina 22 out in high winds to see what happened when he pushed it to the limits. He either got knocked down and/or the boat rounded up when gusts hit. He never felt threatened and the boat always righted itself after a knock down. I don't remember if he got water in the cockpit. He did have the board locked down. Ken ----- Original Message ----- From: <s.mcclellan@attbi.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 8:01 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Self Righting
On the subject of M15 knockdowns,
I'm thinking seriously of taking the M15 out this spring and deliberately pushing her to the point of a flat-out knockdown.
First of all, I'd like to see just what it would take to have that happen, to find out how far she can be pushed. Also, I'd like to try to see how far over she can go and still right herself. Finally, I just want the practice in righting her, if necessary -- I'd rather learn that skill on a nice day, a hundred yards from shore than in the middle of a storm with no land in sight.
Any comments? Anybody ever tried it?
Hi Murray,
After rereading your description of your knockdown in the M15, let me pass along some big boat sailor advice.
All sail locker lids should be gasketed (use closed cell foam rubber strips) to prevent leakage.
The sail locker lids must have some form of lock so that they can't open by themselves, as yours did.
I use a tight fitting hasp. When I leave the boat at the marina I can lock the sail lockers; and when I am sailing, the hasps fit tightly enough so that they won't inadvertently open by themselves.
If weather starts to gets rough, put in the hatch boards and close the companionway hatch. In the event of a knock down you would get some water in the cockpit, but that's all.
The ultimate name of the game is keep the water out of the boat even in knock down conditions. i.e., button up the boat to keep water from getting inside.
You may get wet; the cockpit and deck of the boat might get wet; but everything inside the boat has to stay dry.
Connie
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