Hi Gary, You have me thoroughly confused. What's with the 6th beer??? I haven't talked to Jerry about beer since I asked him for help regarding my centerboard trunk leak on my M15. That's when he suggested I fill the boat with water, lay down under the C/B truck with a beer, and wait for something to happen. When the water started to drip, I would know where it came from............ Idid: it did: and then I fixed it - several Fosters later, as per Jerry's suggestion (the most repair effective beer according to Jerry). No, I haven't seen Jerry over here on the Right Coast. I'm certain that he is smart enough to stay away from New England, and it's cold and snowy weather this time of year. Acapulco sound like a better spot to look for him. Connie