Hi gang, Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time. Thanks in advance for your comments. Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 Scintilla
The one-way valves are not too useful. We use kayak plugs when we know that we are not in a situation where we want the water to flow out (wet feet > flooded boat). The yellow ones seem to be the right size, and they are easy to get out (in an emergency when there suddenly is too much water in the cockpit) which was not true of rubber plugs. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/... 710&Ne=0&Ntt=kayak plugs&Ntk=Primary Search&Ntx=mode matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=kayak plugs&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5005&subdeptNum=10&classNum=11662 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:24 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit Hi gang, Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time. Thanks in advance for your comments. Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 Scintilla _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats Remember, there is no privacy on the Internet!
Thanks, Debora. They do not specify the diameters, but I gather you have used the relatively small yellows successfully. Is your boat near enough to a 2004 M17 to have the same size hose intake? Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debora Everett" <debeve@microsoft.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
The one-way valves are not too useful. We use kayak plugs when we know that we are not in a situation where we want the water to flow out (wet feet > flooded boat). The yellow ones seem to be the right size, and they are easy to get out (in an emergency when there suddenly is too much water in the cockpit) which was not true of rubber plugs.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/... 710&Ne=0&Ntt=kayak plugs&Ntk=Primary Search&Ntx=mode matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=kayak plugs&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5005&subdeptNum=10&classNum=11662
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:24 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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It's a 2005, so pretty close. I think that the colors represent the sizes (you can't get a large, medium, and small red, for example), but I don't remember the named size of the yellow one. And strangely, the West Marine site shows four different ones (red, yellow, green, blue), but only lists three sizes available for order (and they don't bother to list the diameters). -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:26 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water in the cockpit Thanks, Debora. They do not specify the diameters, but I gather you have used the relatively small yellows successfully. Is your boat near enough to a 2004 M17 to have the same size hose intake? Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debora Everett" <debeve@microsoft.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
The one-way valves are not too useful. We use kayak plugs when we know that we are not in a situation where we want the water to flow out (wet feet > flooded boat). The yellow ones seem to be the right size, and they are easy to get out (in an emergency when there suddenly is too much water in the cockpit) which was not true of rubber plugs.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/... 710&Ne=0&Ntt=kayak plugs&Ntk=Primary Search&Ntx=mode matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=kayak plugs&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5005&subdeptNum=10&classNum=11662
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:24 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Debora, According to Lon's measurements, the yellows are indeed the right size for a 17. To get a yellow, should I order a "small" out of their three choices? They don't specify colors or size in the order section. Thanks, Tom Jenkins ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debora Everett" <debeve@microsoft.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:48 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
It's a 2005, so pretty close. I think that the colors represent the sizes (you can't get a large, medium, and small red, for example), but I don't remember the named size of the yellow one.
And strangely, the West Marine site shows four different ones (red, yellow, green, blue), but only lists three sizes available for order (and they don't bother to list the diameters).
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:26 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Thanks, Debora. They do not specify the diameters, but I gather you have used the relatively small yellows successfully. Is your boat near enough to a 2004 M17 to have the same size hose intake? Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla
----- Original Message ----- From: "Debora Everett" <debeve@microsoft.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:38 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
The one-way valves are not too useful. We use kayak plugs when we know that we are not in a situation where we want the water to flow out (wet feet > flooded boat). The yellow ones seem to be the right size, and they are easy to get out (in an emergency when there suddenly is too much water in the cockpit) which was not true of rubber plugs.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/... 710&Ne=0&Ntt=kayak plugs&Ntk=Primary Search&Ntx=mode matchallpartial&Nao=0&Ns=0&keyword=kayak plugs&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=5005&subdeptNum=10&classNum=11662
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jenkins Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:24 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Hi Tom... We've moved to a watertight cockpit floor on recent M_17s by installing some 1.5 inch Marelon Ball Valves from Forespar. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/... Available at WestMarine.com Part number #112425 for the Valve itself (you will need two) and you're going to need 4 tailpieces (1.5 inch) part number #130229 Leave the valves in the OFF position for normal sailing or when you have a crowd in the cockpit. Open the valves at a mooring or slip when the boat is empty to keep the cockpit floor dry. For the fuel line as is comes out of the transom, use a sponge folded around the line and shoved into the hole. You must have been in some sloppy water.....? Fair winds Bob Eeg Montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:24:07 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Thanks Bob, interesting pictures. I am working toward installing a through hull to replace my original 1975 aluminum tube through hull. I do not like that the area it is in cannot be inspected so I am adding an access hatch on the rear wall of the cockpit and I am putting on double clamps until I can install a new thru hull. Probably in the fall. My boat spends the season in the water (salt) and I do not trust the current set up. I had not considered a system such as you show on Pepper Jack but this may be a good option. Has anyone put in a thru hull with ball valve? Robbin Bob From California wrote:
Hi Tom...
We've moved to a watertight cockpit floor on recent M_17s by installing some 1.5 inch Marelon
Ball Valves from Forespar.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/...
Available at WestMarine.com
Part number #112425 for the Valve itself (you will need two) and you're going to need 4 tailpieces (1.5 inch) part number #130229
Leave the valves in the OFF position for normal sailing or when you have a crowd in the cockpit.
Open the valves at a mooring or slip when the boat is empty to keep the cockpit floor dry.
For the fuel line as is comes out of the transom, use a sponge folded around the line and shoved into the hole. You must have been in some sloppy water.....?
Fair winds
Bob Eeg
Montgomeryboats.com
(949) 489-8227
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:24:07 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Hi Bob, That pretty much wraps it up with parts and numbers. I will have to check my Honda 3 gallon fuel tank to gauge if it will fit between the valves. The removable plug idea is a less expensive solution for sure, but the ball valve is obviously more suitable for a new boat, and no errant lines will snag on it. I like the sponge idea for the fuel hose, but a friend suggested a cone-shaped wrap of self-adhesive rubber electrical tape on the hose next to the squeeze bulb. Just cram the sucker in the hole from the outside, and voila! Worth a try. Sloppy water indeed. We dropped the boat in the water with intentions of rigging it at a slip, but it was dead calm, so why not put the boom and main on out in the lake where there is lots of room and a good view? Got all the sails up to admire, and within 5 minutes we had 20 knots or so with gusts to 25 or 30, and no reefing gear or battens in the main. A screaming good sail was had, but my muscular deck ape could not keep the genoa flat without a winch; since I thought the winches were just for looks, I never bought a handle. If have to say the IdaSailor rudder performs very well. I cut 3" off the tiller butt and it came out just the right length. Tom Jenkins 2004 M17 Scintilla ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob From California" <ocean37@hotmail.com> To: "Monty Listserver" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:43 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi Tom...
We've moved to a watertight cockpit floor on recent M_17s by installing some 1.5 inch Marelon
Ball Valves from Forespar.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/10001/-1/10001/...
Available at WestMarine.com
Part number #112425 for the Valve itself (you will need two) and you're going to need 4 tailpieces (1.5 inch) part number #130229
Leave the valves in the OFF position for normal sailing or when you have a crowd in the cockpit.
Open the valves at a mooring or slip when the boat is empty to keep the cockpit floor dry.
For the fuel line as is comes out of the transom, use a sponge folded around the line and shoved into the hole. You must have been in some sloppy water.....?
Fair winds
Bob Eeg
Montgomeryboats.com
(949) 489-8227
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:24:07 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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This site of a recent new Montgomery 17 has a photo of the Marlon Ball Valve installation in the Photo Section. Here: http://svpepperjack.net/ Bob
From: tjenk@gte.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Thu, 14 May 2009 16:24:07 -0700 Subject: M_Boats: water in the cockpit
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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Spirit is a 2008 M-17 that had Whale "one way" valves in the cockpit drain lines. Last year during a stiff breeze in San Francisco Bay I became very concerned when water kept washing into the cockpit through the drains - but didn't seem to be draining back out. After the sail I turned a water hose on the cockpit while the boat was on the trailer, Even with the bow tilted WAY up, water just dribbled out of the cockpit drains. Were it not for water draining through the centerboard pennant hole the cockpit would have turned into a Jacuzzi. So... I took the drains apart believing the valves were broken, clogged, or maybe even installed backwards. Nope! Everything was fine - these gadgets simply don't function correctly in this application. Even wide open they restrict the flow by about 40%. My solution was to remove the "valves" and simply replace the whole assembly with a hose. To keep water out I use Seafit 1-1/4" brass "Flip Lock Drain Plugs" with the adjustment screwed in to the max. They work perfectly and look real shippy. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/ 10001/-1/10001/17664/377%20710/0/plugs/Primary%20Search/mode% 20matchallpartial/70/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=plugs&Ntk=Primary% 20Search&Ntx=mode% 20matchallpartial&Nao=70&Ns=0&keyword=plugs&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=6& subdeptNum=502&classNum=698 Although, if I'd known about Kayak plugs I would have tried them first because they're even simpler. To plug the outboard fuel line hole I use a 1-1/4" Seafit T-Handled Drain Plug: http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/producte/ 10001/-1/10001/13679/377%20710/0/plugs/Primary%20Search/mode% 20matchallpartial/70/0?N=377%20710&Ne=0&Ntt=plugs&Ntk=Primary% 20Search&Ntx=mode% 20matchallpartial&Nao=70&Ns=0&keyword=plugs&isLTokenURL=true&storeNum=6& subdeptNum=502&classNum=698 The strategy is to keep the plugs in place during normal sailing, and pop them out (which takes less then a second) when things get bouncy. Yes, water washes in - but it washes out again. Anyone who does serious sailing on a micro-cruiser should have decent sea boots anyway. Ball Valves are cool but they take up locker space, are slower to access, are more expensive, and require regular maintenance or they'll freeze up. That's when the handles break off (especially if you panic and hit them with a hammer). Jim On May 14, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Tom Jenkins wrote:
Hi gang,
Every boat has a distinctive personality (one reason I love them), and I am discovering my 17 bit by bit. I got in a big blow yesterday, and enough water backed into the cockpit to give me cold feet had the water not been warm. The drain hoses have devices that might be one-way valves half way through the aft locker, and I am wondering if other owners have found that these keep all the water out. If so, I will have to take the things apart and find the problem. A final, if not as elegant (or safe) a solution, would be to use expanding rubber plugs in the cockpit openings, but I cannot find one of the proper size in my catalogs. Has anyone found a source? A big old soft rubber cork would probably work, but I am afraid a surge might pop one out. Another thing I noticed was a bit of water around the fuel tank in the aft locker. I assume a following wave took a whack high on the transom and shoved water past the fuel hose; has anyone experienced this and come up with an elegant solution? I know this subject was brought up awhile back, but I don't have the emails and I was not focused on the subject at the time.
Thanks in advance for your comments.
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