Re: M_Boats: The bow chock discussion continues...
Hi Rusty, First off: I didn't remove the teak toe rail at all. All I did was cut back about 6" from the beginning of the toe rail (at the bow) to give me enough room to mount the cleats that I had bought. The toe rail was cut, leaving 3/8" thickness of the original toe rail in place. You cut it with a back saw / hack saw / or almost any kind of fine toothed saw. Then you take a chisel and remove the teak until you have 3/8" left. Use a file to make the surface flat over it's length. I had teak bits and pieces in my scrap box in the shop. I took some and made the filler pieces that widened the toe rail to match the base of the chock I had bought. Then those pieces were bedded to the inboard side of the toe rail. Now, with proper bases for the cleats established. You drill your chock mounting holes about 1/16" oversize. Put some masking tape over the bottom of the hole in the cabin ceiling (to keep your thickened epoxy from dripping out of the hole) and fill the holes with thickened epoxy. When the epoxy has cured, redrill the holes through the hardened epoxy to the correct size, put bedding compound under your chocks and mount them with stainless bolts and washers (if you can find a proper sized stainless fender washer - large diameter washer - that would be the best to use). The fender washers will spread the load better than regular washers will. Oh, and shape the end of the toe rail leading to the chock in a pleasant curve or angle: Mine is probably at about 45 degrees, or maybe closer to 30 degrees - it was just cut by eye and refinished. Connie
I just want to publicly thank Connie for all the great help and ideas. Every single neophyte question has been answered graciously and in wonderful detail. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to help with all those questions. I hope you never get tired of helping us beginners out!!! With deep respect, Rusty __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
I'm sure I'll inadvertently leave a name out, but it's Connie, Tod, John, Larry, Doug, Giles, Howard and others that make this list an invaluable resource . . . These people are exceptionally talented and resourceful and I'm grateful that they stick with the list, put up with drivel like mine, and continue to contribute, even when they have to repeat stuff they've covered several times previously in the M-List archives. So, I second Rusty's sentiment. Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You give me something to look forward to every time I open my email! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rusty Knorr" <mazemusic@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:08 AM Subject: A huge thanks! I just want to publicly thank Connie for all the great help and ideas. Every single neophyte question has been answered graciously and in wonderful detail. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to help with all those questions. I hope you never get tired of helping us beginners out!!! With deep respect, Rusty
I certainly didn't mean to leave anyone out! I am new to the list so thank you for adding those names that I haven't had the chance to interact with. I have so much to learn and I am so thankful for such a fantastic resource. I hope someday that I can be a resource myself! Thanks again, Rusty --- Honshells <chonshell@ia4u.net> wrote:
I'm sure I'll inadvertently leave a name out, but it's Connie, Tod, John, Larry, Doug, Giles, Howard and others that make this list an invaluable resource . . . These people are exceptionally talented and resourceful and I'm grateful that they stick with the list, put up with drivel like mine, and continue to contribute, even when they have to repeat stuff they've covered several times previously in the M-List archives. So, I second Rusty's sentiment. Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You give me something to look forward to every time I open my email!
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rusty Knorr" <mazemusic@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:08 AM Subject: A huge thanks!
I just want to publicly thank Connie for all the great help and ideas. Every single neophyte question has been answered graciously and in wonderful detail. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to help with all those questions. I hope you never get tired of helping us beginners out!!!
With deep respect, Rusty
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And I didn't mean to imply that you'd left anyone out, either, Rusty. My follow-up was meant to add-to, not correct your message. I hope my post didn't detract from your thanks to Connie, because he's a fantastic resource and deserves the credit. I am equally as grateful to the other names I listed, and, please forgive, those I might have missed, so I wanted to express that. Even when the list is not addressing a specific need of mine, it makes for enjoyable reading, and I look forward to new posts when I open my email. Not only is it great to profit from the authorities' Monty experience, but also from their sailing experience with all different models. I've wandered about the net looking at other Owners' Groups and sites, and I think the Monty Group is far and away the best, as evidenced by those who participate who no longer sail Montys, or who have never owned Montys, and sail other designs like the Potters. What an incredible testimony to our designs which, by comparison, have been produced in relatively small numbers. I feel very fortunate that I found the Montgomery 17', basically by happenstance. Kinda like winning the lottery, although now I need to actually do so to pay off the debt I've compiled restoring my boat. :-) Monty boating is a great pastime. Wish it were my vocation! :-) Fair winds, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rusty Knorr" <mazemusic@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:19 AM Subject: ANOTHER huge thanks! I certainly didn't mean to leave anyone out! I am new to the list so thank you for adding those names that I haven't had the chance to interact with. I have so much to learn and I am so thankful for such a fantastic resource. I hope someday that I can be a resource myself! Thanks again, Rusty --- Honshells <chonshell@ia4u.net> wrote: I'm sure I'll inadvertently leave a name out, but it's Connie, Tod, John, Larry, Doug, Giles, Howard and others that make this list an invaluable resource . . . These people are exceptionally talented and resourceful and I'm grateful that they stick with the list, put up with drivel like mine, and continue to contribute, even when they have to repeat stuff they've covered several times previously in the M-List archives. So, I second Rusty's sentiment. Thanks everyone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You give me something to look forward to every time I open my email! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rusty Knorr" <mazemusic@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 4:08 AM Subject: A huge thanks! I just want to publicly thank Connie for all the great help and ideas. Every single neophyte question has been answered graciously and in wonderful detail. I can't thank you enough for taking the time to help with all those questions. I hope you never get tired of helping us beginners out!!! With deep respect, Rusty
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