Howzit? MMPI 7422HO91 is my new love; but she’s been more neglected than abused. Not quite a “barn find” she sat in the weeds for a good 6 years, long enough under a mango tree to start a couple of mango trees in the cockpit, rooting under the teak grate! Might she be that notorious vessel who sailed here from there? I haven’t yet heard from another, at least not from Craigslist queries. I acquired her on a “new” trailer but have paper to trace her back to first sale & shipping from a dealer in Sacramento, CA to Honolulu, HI in ‘92. May I ask: (as a professional boatbuilder) Is there more to be gleaned from her tattoo beyond her age? She’s pretty much undamaged forward of the 3-pintle rudder. Given the inevitability of C/B bumpers in our neighborhood, I’m prompted to modify the mahogany rudder remnant. Might even be a prize for the best “kick-up” suggestion! Mahalo Plenty, AloooHa, Philipp @ SE’ABLE
Hi Philip...congrats....you might consider a kick up rudder from RudderCraft. You will probably have to call Joel (the owner) and give him the dimensions between your Gudgeons. Here is the LINK: http://www.idasailor.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=45&products_id=466 Have fun Bob Montgomeryboats.com (949) 489-8227
From: seable@lava.net To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:32:20 -1000 Subject: M_Boats: I'm an M17 Virgin; but I like her already! A LOT!
Howzit?
MMPI 7422HO91 is my new love; but she’s been more neglected than abused.
Not quite a “barn find” she sat in the weeds for a good 6 years, long enough under a mango tree to start a couple of mango trees in the cockpit, rooting under the teak grate! Might she be that notorious vessel who sailed here from there? I haven’t yet heard from another, at least not from Craigslist queries.
I acquired her on a “new” trailer but have paper to trace her back to first sale & shipping from a dealer in Sacramento, CA to Honolulu, HI in ‘92.
May I ask: (as a professional boatbuilder)
Is there more to be gleaned from her tattoo beyond her age?
She’s pretty much undamaged forward of the 3-pintle rudder. Given the inevitability of C/B bumpers in our neighborhood, I’m prompted to modify the mahogany rudder remnant.
Might even be a prize for the best “kick-up” suggestion!
Mahalo Plenty, AloooHa,
Philipp @ SE’ABLE
Hello Phillip. If I recall correctly, Jerry's boat number scheme goes like this: MMP is Montgomery Marine Products (So it's not MMPI- the I is a 1), 17 refers to boat length, 442 is the production number, and H is the month the boat was produced (H = August). The next letter/number 0 doesn't fit for me, but the last two numbers are the production year, 1991. Usually I thought Jerry simply repeated the last number of the production year in front of the year, thus your number would have read: 191, but maybe I have that wrong. Someone will correct me if I'm off track here... t On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:32 PM, <seable@lava.net> wrote:
Howzit?
MMPI 7422HO91 is my new love; but she’s been more neglected than abused.
Not quite a “barn find” she sat in the weeds for a good 6 years, long enough under a mango tree to start a couple of mango trees in the cockpit, rooting under the teak grate! Might she be that notorious vessel who sailed here from there? I haven’t yet heard from another, at least not from Craigslist queries.
I acquired her on a “new” trailer but have paper to trace her back to first sale & shipping from a dealer in Sacramento, CA to Honolulu, HI in ‘92.
May I ask: (as a professional boatbuilder)
Is there more to be gleaned from her tattoo beyond her age?
She’s pretty much undamaged forward of the 3-pintle rudder. Given the inevitability of C/B bumpers in our neighborhood, I’m prompted to modify the mahogany rudder remnant.
Might even be a prize for the best “kick-up” suggestion!
Mahalo Plenty, AloooHa,
Philipp @ SE’ABLE
yes, as tom states, the 0 before 91 is strange. sometimes the numbers can be hard to read ... my M15's were a mess (not straight, overlapping. my M15 was/is also one of two with hull number 288). 0 could be an 8? Phillip, maybe you can share a picture? this listproc now allows a single less than 100K image to be attached. to mess things up even more the current USCG regs are different then what is shown on the MSOG.org site for the post 84' boats. as of 2009 it now - MMP XXXXX XXXX first three are builder ID code as assigned by USCG when shop is certified. next five characters cannot include letters I, O or Q. the code used is defined by builder. in jerry boats this is: type (ie, 15, 17, 23) followed by hull number the last four are month built (A - jan; B - feb, etc) followed last digit of year built followed by model year. the last four numbers being used in this way started with new USCG enforcement in 2009. model year begins 1 august and ends 31 july. so ... hypotheticals MMP20001F111 the above is a Montgomery Marine Product 'M20', hull number 001 built Feb. 2011 and model year 2011. MMP20002K112 the above is a Montgomery Marine Product 'M20', hull number 002 built november 2011 and model year 2012 :: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine --- On Thu, 1/26/12, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Phillip. If I recall correctly, Jerry's boat number scheme goes like this: MMP is Montgomery Marine Products (So it's not MMPI- the I is a 1), 17 refers to boat length, 442 is the production number, and H is the month the boat was produced (H = August).
The next letter/number 0 doesn't fit for me, but the last two numbers are the production year, 1991.
Usually I thought Jerry simply repeated the last number of the production year in front of the year, thus your number would have read: 191, but maybe I have that wrong.
Someone will correct me if I'm off track here... t
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:32 PM, <seable@lava.net> wrote:
Howzit?
MMPI 7422HO91 is my new love; but she’s been more neglected than abused.
Not quite a “barn find” she sat in the weeds for a good 6 years, long enough under a mango tree to start a couple of mango trees in the cockpit, rooting under the teak grate! Might she be that notorious vessel who sailed here from there? I haven’t yet heard from another, at least not from Craigslist queries.
I acquired her on a “new” trailer but have paper to trace her back to first sale & shipping from a dealer in Sacramento, CA to Honolulu, HI in ‘92.
May I ask: (as a professional boatbuilder)
Is there more to be gleaned from her tattoo beyond her age?
She’s pretty much undamaged forward of the 3-pintle rudder. Given the inevitability of C/B bumpers in our neighborhood, I’m prompted to modify the mahogany rudder remnant.
Might even be a prize for the best “kick-up” suggestion!
Mahalo Plenty, AloooHa,
Philipp @ SE’ABLE
Dave- keep in mind that the number sequence and code changed several times in the 25 years I was in business. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Scobie" <wdscobie@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:54 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: I'm an M17 Virgin - my hull number yes, as tom states, the 0 before 91 is strange. sometimes the numbers can be hard to read ... my M15's were a mess (not straight, overlapping. my M15 was/is also one of two with hull number 288). 0 could be an 8? Phillip, maybe you can share a picture? this listproc now allows a single less than 100K image to be attached. to mess things up even more the current USCG regs are different then what is shown on the MSOG.org site for the post 84' boats. as of 2009 it now - MMP XXXXX XXXX first three are builder ID code as assigned by USCG when shop is certified. next five characters cannot include letters I, O or Q. the code used is defined by builder. in jerry boats this is: type (ie, 15, 17, 23) followed by hull number the last four are month built (A - jan; B - feb, etc) followed last digit of year built followed by model year. the last four numbers being used in this way started with new USCG enforcement in 2009. model year begins 1 august and ends 31 july. so ... hypotheticals MMP20001F111 the above is a Montgomery Marine Product 'M20', hull number 001 built Feb. 2011 and model year 2011. MMP20002K112 the above is a Montgomery Marine Product 'M20', hull number 002 built november 2011 and model year 2012 :: Dave Scobie :: Sage Marine --- On Thu, 1/26/12, Tom Smith <openboatt@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello Phillip. If I recall correctly, Jerry's boat number scheme goes like this: MMP is Montgomery Marine Products (So it's not MMPI- the I is a 1), 17 refers to boat length, 442 is the production number, and H is the month the boat was produced (H = August).
The next letter/number 0 doesn't fit for me, but the last two numbers are the production year, 1991.
Usually I thought Jerry simply repeated the last number of the production year in front of the year, thus your number would have read: 191, but maybe I have that wrong.
Someone will correct me if I'm off track here... t
On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 at 7:32 PM, <seable@lava.net> wrote:
Howzit?
MMPI 7422HO91 is my new love; but she’s been more neglected than abused.
Not quite a “barn find” she sat in the weeds for a good 6 years, long enough under a mango tree to start a couple of mango trees in the cockpit, rooting under the teak grate! Might she be that notorious vessel who sailed here from there? I haven’t yet heard from another, at least not from Craigslist queries.
I acquired her on a “new” trailer but have paper to trace her back to first sale & shipping from a dealer in Sacramento, CA to Honolulu, HI in ‘92.
May I ask: (as a professional boatbuilder)
Is there more to be gleaned from her tattoo beyond her age?
She’s pretty much undamaged forward of the 3-pintle rudder. Given the inevitability of C/B bumpers in our neighborhood, I’m prompted to modify the mahogany rudder remnant.
Might even be a prize for the best “kick-up” suggestion!
Mahalo Plenty, AloooHa,
Philipp @ SE’ABLE
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