Hi Bert, A few of us have had to send our old M15 sails to the maker to get an accurate cut. If time will permit, I would recommend you doing the same. Sometimes it saves some back and forth. As Dave mentioned, over the years, changes happen and it's difficult to tell if your sails are stock, or even what stock was for your boat. sal In a message dated 8/25/2011 9:38:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, bert.hall@rogers.com writes: Thank you for the guidance,David. Your info regarding having to rig the jib sheets outside the shrouds if an over size jib is used is especially helpful.RTH. -----Original Message----- From: W David Scobie Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 6:45 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sail Sizes and Features M15 sail dimensions here - http://www.msog.org/specs/m15sailmeasure.cfm i suggest you measure your current sail 'just to be sure' that your boat is 'standard'. there have been slight changes over the years, and some owners make their own modifications. discussions of what the dimension letters mean - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sail-plan#Sail-plan_measurements 128% jib and 85% jib refer to the percentage of the fore-triangle (mast / forestay / deck). 100% would just fill the triangle. going much greater than 128% of the M15 jib requires you to run the sheets outside of the shrouds. this requires you to put a block on the toe-rail. sheeting outside the shrouds reduces the M15's ability to point into the wind. when i had a 15 i was tempted to get, but never did get, a 'cruising spinnaker' to use in reaching and downwind situations ... light winds being very common in puget sound during the summer 'sailing' months. :: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA :: Sailing Sage 17 #001 - AIR BORN :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Thu, 8/25/11, Robert Hall <bert.hall@rogers.com> wrote:
Hello All, Does anyone have the exact dimensions for a M15 mainsail, those required to supply to the sailmaker who make the sail? I have the same question concerning the jib. Would also welcome comment on features necessary and/or useful on a new sail.With regard to the jib,is increasing the size a good idea, or do I go with the standard? Has anyone experience with using a drum and swivel jib furling system on the M15 ? Finally what does the term”85% jib “ mean? Thanks. I know the answers are out there. RTH. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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Well, if your sails were sewn by Kern Fergussun (sp?) you can be pretty sure they are original. Jerry used Kern and somebody else I don't remember. t On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 12:45 PM, <SALGLESSER@aol.com> wrote:
Hi Bert,
A few of us have had to send our old M15 sails to the maker to get an accurate cut. If time will permit, I would recommend you doing the same. Sometimes it saves some back and forth. As Dave mentioned, over the years, changes happen and it's difficult to tell if your sails are stock, or even what stock was for your boat.
sal
In a message dated 8/25/2011 9:38:02 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, bert.hall@rogers.com writes:
Thank you for the guidance,David. Your info regarding having to rig the jib sheets outside the shrouds if an over size jib is used is especially helpful.RTH.
-----Original Message----- From: W David Scobie Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 6:45 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sail Sizes and Features
M15 sail dimensions here -
http://www.msog.org/specs/m15sailmeasure.cfm
i suggest you measure your current sail 'just to be sure' that your boat is 'standard'. there have been slight changes over the years, and some owners make their own modifications.
discussions of what the dimension letters mean -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sail-plan#Sail-plan_measurements
128% jib and 85% jib refer to the percentage of the fore-triangle (mast / forestay / deck). 100% would just fill the triangle.
going much greater than 128% of the M15 jib requires you to run the sheets
outside of the shrouds. this requires you to put a block on the toe-rail. sheeting outside the shrouds reduces the M15's ability to point into the wind.
when i had a 15 i was tempted to get, but never did get, a 'cruising spinnaker' to use in reaching and downwind situations ... light winds being very common in puget sound during the summer 'sailing' months.
:: Dave Scobie :: former M15 owner - www.freewebs.com/m15-named-scred :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA :: Sailing Sage 17 #001 - AIR BORN :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com
--- On Thu, 8/25/11, Robert Hall <bert.hall@rogers.com> wrote:
Hello All, Does anyone have the exact dimensions for a M15 mainsail, those required to supply to the sailmaker who make the sail? I have the same question concerning the jib. Would also welcome comment on features necessary and/or useful on a new sail.With regard to the jib,is increasing the size a good idea, or do I go with the standard? Has anyone experience with using a drum and swivel jib furling system on the M15 ? Finally what does the term”85% jib “ mean? Thanks. I know the answers are out there. RTH. _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
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