Re: M_Boats: furling genny - reefing cdi . . .
Hi Stan; I installed the CDI FF1roller furling on my M15 several years ago and have ever regretted it. You still need to go thru the same process as described for the M17s. I just had my 150 converted to use the furler and, overall, sail shape is good throughout the entire range. Set up and take down takes a little longer, but not much. The furler is about the same length as the outside curve of the deck, so it rests there rides there when trailering and in storage. The following is from a post in 1999 (searched on "CDI" in the MSOG achieves. Don Haas, M15- 248 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Don Haas Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sails Date: 01 Jan 1999 17:52:16 -0800 ----------------------------------- I put a CDI furler on my M-15 this year and recommend it highly. I had my genoa modified to work with the furler so going from full genny to a small jib takes seconds, and no one has to go forward. Maybe its just me, but the M15 seems to behave better with less foresail when the winds kick up at all. It requires some modification to the forestay and my rigger suggested replacing all the standing rigging since it appeared to be original equipment. The total for all was about $65. CDI recommends having a swivel at each end of the forestay, so I made the following modifications. Add a "dog leg" to the existing thru bolt where the side shrouds attach. (I don't know if that's the official name for the thing or not, I look for my West catalog and find out) The upper swivel attaches to the dogleg with a shackle pin and split ring. The furler drum attaches to the bow fitting like the old forestay. With this arrangement I can rig either the furler or the original set up. I take the hanked jib and original forestay with me, although I haven't ever used it. The only problem I had during installation was with the top fitting on the furler hitting the mast as it rotated. The angle on the M15 forestay is quite small so I may have lost a inch of hoist overall so it wouldn't touch. Rigging for launch takes an additional 10 minutes or so, and a little more time at the end of the day. I trailer with the furler completely off the mast. The assembly is almost exactly as long as the outside curve of the boat, so it lays neatly along curve of the toe rail, securely attached to the bow pulpit, shrouds and rear cleat. It . My wife made a padded cover that protects the drum from gunk while we are on the road. Hope this helps. Don Haas M15-248, Dream Catcher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [Original Message]
From: Stanley Winarski <winarski@cox.net> To: Craig F. Honshell <chonshell@ia4u.net>; For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Date: 10/28/2004 7:08:51 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: furling genny - reefing cdi . . .
Has anyone found a reefing furler for the M-15 ? Those I've looked at all specifically warn against using it for reefing.
Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II
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Don Haas wrote:
Hi Stan;
I installed the CDI FF1roller furling on my M15 several years ago and have ever regretted it. You still need to go thru the same process as described for the M17s. I just had my 150 converted to use the furler and, overall, sail shape is good throughout the entire range. Set up and take down takes a little longer, but not much. The furler is about the same length as the outside curve of the deck, so it rests there rides there when trailering and in storage. The following is from a post in 1999 (searched on "CDI" in the MSOG achieves.
Don Haas, M15- 248 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Don Haas Subject: Re: M_Boats: Sails Date: 01 Jan 1999 17:52:16 -0800 ----------------------------------- I put a CDI furler on my M-15 this year and recommend it highly. I had my genoa modified to work with the furler so going from full genny to a small jib takes seconds, and no one has to go forward. Maybe its just me, but the M15 seems to behave better with less foresail when the winds kick up at all. It requires some modification to the forestay and my rigger suggested replacing all the standing rigging since it appeared to be original equipment. The total for all was about $65. CDI recommends having a swivel at each end of the forestay, so I made the following modifications. Add a "dog leg" to the existing thru bolt where the side shrouds attach. (I don't know if that's the official name for the thing or not, I look for my West catalog and find out) The upper swivel attaches to the dogleg with a shackle pin and split ring. The furler drum attaches to the bow fitting like the old forestay. With this arrangement I can rig either the furler or the original set up. I take the hanked jib and original forestay with me, although I haven't ever used it. The only problem I had during installation was with the top fitting on the furler hitting the mast as it rotated. The angle on the M15 forestay is quite small so I may have lost a inch of hoist overall so it wouldn't touch. Rigging for launch takes an additional 10 minutes or so, and a little more time at the end of the day. I trailer with the furler completely off the mast. The assembly is almost exactly as long as the outside curve of the boat, so it lays neatly along curve of the toe rail, securely attached to the bow pulpit, shrouds and rear cleat. It . My wife made a padded cover that protects the drum from gunk while we are on the road. Hope this helps. Don Haas M15-248, Dream Catcher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: Stanley Winarski <winarski@cox.net> To: Craig F. Honshell <chonshell@ia4u.net>; For and about Montgomery
Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>
Date: 10/28/2004 7:08:51 PM Subject: Re: M_Boats: furling genny - reefing cdi . . .
Has anyone found a reefing furler for the M-15 ? Those I've looked at all specifically warn against using it for reefing.
Stan Winarski M-15, #177, Carol II
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Don, ever regretted or never regretted? Regards, Dick
Thanks for your input, Don. Since the 15 is fractionally rigged, I may try to simply lengthen the forestay and attach it a few inches above the existing point. I've never replaced my rigging (1981 with no signs of wear although I dropped a mast over the side when a locking ring was knocked off by a cavorting teen) but may do that now to accommodate the roller. I'll write to Jerry Montgomery about getting some new rigging and see what he thinks of the idea to accommodate the top fitting. Stan
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