OK Jerry! I sure hope you'll be sailing somewhere nearby to come get me out of the drink when we broach! Actually, Jo's a pretty darn good sport and always volunteers to go forward and jibe the pole (I think she's afraid of being blamed for the broach!) I think the cut-off for the Challenge is 25 ft. Like you guys, we can commit yet. Right now all we can think about is getting ready for the San Juans. Hey Larry and SJ gang! Did you see this months issue of Sailing. They have an article about sailing the San Juans. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.