Endelig is coming along. I am now working on the lighting. Cabin and fore and aft running lights are now working. Did old M-17's have a masthead anchor light? There is a switch on the panel which says "Mast" and a dead end wire at the aft edge of the forward hatch but I see no evidence of an opening or wire stub going to the mast or a place for mounting on the masthead. The previous owner told me that she had knocked the anchor light off when she was stepping the mast, but could not find the fixture. I have really looked the mast over and can't find a place where it might have been attached. Can you help me, again? Thanks, Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig
My M17 has a masthead tricolor, red and green in front, white in back, one bulb. No "anchor light" as such. The tricolor is very similar to the Aquasignal series 40, although it doesn't look as if Aquasignal makes the tricolor anymore, but rather a bicolor with anchor light, which would seem to better meet your needs anyway. The light is mounted on a pedestal screwed to the masthead and the wiring runs through the mast to a through-deck (through-hull) plug next to that mast-step. The West Marine catalog link is: http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=1... ductId=17988 I imagine, with a link this long, you'll have to copy and paste it to your internet address window. My light is shot, it's so old the plastic is very clouded, and I've been thinking about alternatives to the masthead, but lately I've been thinking maybe I prefer to have all nav. lights at the top of the mast, up out of the way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:55 PM Subject: New Old M-17 Endelig is coming along. I am now working on the lighting. Cabin and fore and aft running lights are now working. Did old M-17's have a masthead anchor light? There is a switch on the panel which says "Mast" and a dead end wire at the aft edge of the forward hatch but I see no evidence of an opening or wire stub going to the mast or a place for mounting on the masthead. The previous owner told me that she had knocked the anchor light off when she was stepping the mast, but could not find the fixture. I have really looked the mast over and can't find a place where it might have been attached. Can you help me, again? Thanks, Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig
Aqua Signal still makes the masthead tri-color and west Marine still sells them. They are on the following page of their online catalog. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1243&catalogId=10001&classN um=236&subdeptNum=235&storeNum=9 Sailnet used to sell them for less, however; I don't see them listed in their online catalog (only the tri-color with anchor light). Mark Dvorscak -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of Honshells Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:47 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: M_Boats: New Old M-17 My M17 has a masthead tricolor, red and green in front, white in back, one bulb. No "anchor light" as such. The tricolor is very similar to the Aquasignal series 40, although it doesn't look as if Aquasignal makes the tricolor anymore, but rather a bicolor with anchor light, which would seem to better meet your needs anyway. The light is mounted on a pedestal screwed to the masthead and the wiring runs through the mast to a through-deck (through-hull) plug next to that mast-step. The West Marine catalog link is: http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&pro ductId=17988 I imagine, with a link this long, you'll have to copy and paste it to your internet address window. My light is shot, it's so old the plastic is very clouded, and I've been thinking about alternatives to the masthead, but lately I've been thinking maybe I prefer to have all nav. lights at the top of the mast, up out of the way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:55 PM Subject: New Old M-17 Endelig is coming along. I am now working on the lighting. Cabin and fore and aft running lights are now working. Did old M-17's have a masthead anchor light? There is a switch on the panel which says "Mast" and a dead end wire at the aft edge of the forward hatch but I see no evidence of an opening or wire stub going to the mast or a place for mounting on the masthead. The previous owner told me that she had knocked the anchor light off when she was stepping the mast, but could not find the fixture. I have really looked the mast over and can't find a place where it might have been attached. Can you help me, again? Thanks, Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats
For what it's worth. Defender ( www.defender.com )has The Aqua Signal masthead tri-color for significantly less $ than West marine. I didn't want to pay the Aqua Signal price for a masthead tricolor with anchor light ($129 at defender, $169 West Marine)so I bolted a $17 perko light on top of the Aqua Signal tri color at $ $72. This combination works just fine however I wouldn't recommend it for most people as it is over kill. The Masthead tri-color can only be used under sail so if you motor after dark you still need yet another set of motoring lights. For me the masthead light is only useful if you do a lot of night sailing in an sea with swells high enough to hide your deck mounted lights a 1/2 mile away. The combination that Howard describes single white perko light at the masthead with deck mounted nav lights is a good solution. Thanks Doug Kelch "Seas the Day" --- Roberta Dvorscak <edarts93@earthlink.net> wrote:
Aqua Signal still makes the masthead tri-color and west Marine still sells them. They are on the following page of their online catalog.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store
Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1243&catalogId=10001&classN
um=236&subdeptNum=235&storeNum=9
Sailnet used to sell them for less, however; I don't see them listed in their online catalog (only the tri-color with anchor light).
Mark Dvorscak
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My M17 has a masthead tricolor, red and green in front, white in back, one bulb. No "anchor light" as such. The tricolor is very similar to the Aquasignal series 40, although it doesn't look as if Aquasignal makes the tricolor anymore, but rather a bicolor with anchor light, which would seem to better meet your needs anyway. The light is mounted on a pedestal screwed to the masthead and the wiring runs through the mast to a through-deck (through-hull) plug next to that mast-step. The West
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I had no idea that masthead lights were illegal under power, Doug. Thanks for that info! --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Kelch" <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> To: <edarts93@earthlink.net>; "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 9:47 AM Subject: masthead tricolor For what it's worth. Defender ( www.defender.com )has The Aqua Signal masthead tri-color for significantly less $ than West marine. I didn't want to pay the Aqua Signal price for a masthead tricolor with anchor light ($129 at defender, $169 West Marine)so I bolted a $17 perko light on top of the Aqua Signal tri color at $ $72. This combination works just fine however I wouldn't recommend it for most people as it is over kill. The Masthead tri-color can only be used under sail so if you motor after dark you still need yet another set of motoring lights. For me the masthead light is only useful if you do a lot of night sailing in an sea with swells high enough to hide your deck mounted lights a 1/2 mile away. The combination that Howard describes single white perko light at the masthead with deck mounted nav lights is a good solution. Thanks Doug Kelch "Seas the Day"
Mark, It looks to me like W.M. only offers three choices: 1. Bicolor mounted on a strobe anchor light, 2. Bicolor, just red and green, not white in back, 3. Bicolor mounted on a normal anchor light. Am I missing something? My light is red, front port, green, front starboard, white in back. I might be overlooking something on the site, but it looks like the closest thing W.M. carries is the plain ol' bicolor with no anchor-light . . . You link is the same one I originally posted. I'm sure any of the three, however, will fit the mount I have. Thanks, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <edarts93@earthlink.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:13 AM Subject: masthead tricolor Aqua Signal still makes the masthead tri-color and west Marine still sells them. They are on the following page of their online catalog. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1243&catalogId=10001&classN um=236&subdeptNum=235&storeNum=9 Sailnet used to sell them for less, however; I don't see them listed in their online catalog (only the tri-color with anchor light). Mark Dvorscak -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of Honshells Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:47 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: New Old M-17 My M17 has a masthead tricolor, red and green in front, white in back, one bulb. No "anchor light" as such. The tricolor is very similar to the Aquasignal series 40, although it doesn't look as if Aquasignal makes the tricolor anymore, but rather a bicolor with anchor light, which would seem to better meet your needs anyway. The light is mounted on a pedestal screwed to the masthead and the wiring runs through the mast to a through-deck (through-hull) plug next to that mast-step. The West Marine catalog link is: http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&pro ductId=17988 I imagine, with a link this long, you'll have to copy and paste it to your internet address window. My light is shot, it's so old the plastic is very clouded, and I've been thinking about alternatives to the masthead, but lately I've been thinking maybe I prefer to have all nav. lights at the top of the mast, up out of the way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:55 PM Subject: New Old M-17 Endelig is coming along. I am now working on the lighting. Cabin and fore and aft running lights are now working. Did old M-17's have a masthead anchor light? There is a switch on the panel which says "Mast" and a dead end wire at the aft edge of the forward hatch but I see no evidence of an opening or wire stub going to the mast or a place for mounting on the masthead. The previous owner told me that she had knocked the anchor light off when she was stepping the mast, but could not find the fixture. I have really looked the mast over and can't find a place where it might have been attached. Can you help me, again? Thanks, Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig
On the West Marine search field on upper left side of page - search on tri-color and you will get to the Aqua Series 40 details - They still offer them for an exorbiant price. Thanks Doug Kelch --- Honshells <chonshell@ia4u.net> wrote:
Mark, It looks to me like W.M. only offers three choices: 1. Bicolor mounted on a strobe anchor light, 2. Bicolor, just red and green, not white in back, 3. Bicolor mounted on a normal anchor light. Am I missing something? My light is red, front port, green, front starboard, white in back. I might be overlooking something on the site, but it looks like the closest thing W.M. carries is the plain ol' bicolor with no anchor-light . . . You link is the same one I originally posted. I'm sure any of the three, however, will fit the mount I have. Thanks, Craig
----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <edarts93@earthlink.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:13 AM Subject: masthead tricolor
Aqua Signal still makes the masthead tri-color and west Marine still sells them. They are on the following page of their online catalog.
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store
Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1243&catalogId=10001&classN
um=236&subdeptNum=235&storeNum=9
Sailnet used to sell them for less, however; I don't see them listed in their online catalog (only the tri-color with anchor light).
Mark Dvorscak
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[mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission
.com] On Behalf Of Honshells Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:47 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: New Old M-17
My M17 has a masthead tricolor, red and green in front, white in back, one bulb. No "anchor light" as such. The tricolor is very similar to the Aquasignal series 40, although it doesn't look as if Aquasignal makes the tricolor anymore, but rather a bicolor with anchor light, which would seem to better meet your needs anyway. The light is mounted on a pedestal screwed to the masthead and the wiring runs through the mast to a through-deck (through-hull) plug next to that mast-step. The West Marine catalog link is:
http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store
Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&pro ductId=17988
I imagine, with a link this long, you'll have to copy and paste it to your internet address window.
My light is shot, it's so old the plastic is very clouded, and I've been thinking about alternatives to the masthead, but lately I've been thinking maybe I prefer to have all nav. lights at the top of the mast, up out of the way.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:55 PM Subject: New Old M-17
Endelig is coming along. I am now working on the lighting. Cabin and fore and aft running lights are now working. Did old M-17's have a masthead anchor light? There is a switch on the panel which says "Mast" and a dead end wire at the aft edge of the forward hatch but I see no evidence of an opening or wire stub going to the mast or a place for mounting on the masthead. The previous owner told me that she had knocked the anchor light off when she was stepping the mast, but could not find the fixture. I have really looked the mast over and can't find a place where it might have been attached. Can you help me, again?
Thanks,
Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig
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Thanks, Doug: That search worked. I had planned to go ahead and replace the tri, but now I'm not sure, given the revelation that a masthead light is not legal under power. Maybe I'll just go with a white masthead and hunt for decklights . . . --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Kelch" <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 11:30 AM Subject: masthead tricolor -- please clarify On the West Marine search field on upper left side of page - search on tri-color and you will get to the Aqua Series 40 details - They still offer them for an exorbiant price. Thanks Doug Kelch --- Honshells <chonshell@ia4u.net> wrote: Mark, It looks to me like W.M. only offers three choices: 1. Bicolor mounted on a strobe anchor light, 2. Bicolor, just red and green, not white in back, 3. Bicolor mounted on a normal anchor light. Am I missing something? My light is red, front port, green, front starboard, white in back. I might be overlooking something on the site, but it looks like the closest thing W.M. carries is the plain ol' bicolor with no anchor-light . . . You link is the same one I originally posted. I'm sure any of the three, however, will fit the mount I have. Thanks, Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roberta Dvorscak" <edarts93@earthlink.net> To: "'For and about Montgomery Sailboats'" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2004 2:13 AM Subject: masthead tricolor Aqua Signal still makes the masthead tri-color and west Marine still sells them. They are on the following page of their online catalog. http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&productId=1243&catalogId=10001&classN um=236&subdeptNum=235&storeNum=9 Sailnet used to sell them for less, however; I don't see them listed in their online catalog (only the tri-color with anchor light). Mark Dvorscak -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces+edarts93=earthlink.net@mailman.xmission .com] On Behalf Of Honshells Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 5:47 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: New Old M-17 My M17 has a masthead tricolor, red and green in front, white in back, one bulb. No "anchor light" as such. The tricolor is very similar to the Aquasignal series 40, although it doesn't look as if Aquasignal makes the tricolor anymore, but rather a bicolor with anchor light, which would seem to better meet your needs anyway. The light is mounted on a pedestal screwed to the masthead and the wiring runs through the mast to a through-deck (through-hull) plug next to that mast-step. The West Marine catalog link is: http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?store Id=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10001&pro ductId=17988 I imagine, with a link this long, you'll have to copy and paste it to your internet address window. My light is shot, it's so old the plastic is very clouded, and I've been thinking about alternatives to the masthead, but lately I've been thinking maybe I prefer to have all nav. lights at the top of the mast, up out of the way. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2004 7:55 PM Subject: New Old M-17 Endelig is coming along. I am now working on the lighting. Cabin and fore and aft running lights are now working. Did old M-17's have a masthead anchor light? There is a switch on the panel which says "Mast" and a dead end wire at the aft edge of the forward hatch but I see no evidence of an opening or wire stub going to the mast or a place for mounting on the masthead. The previous owner told me that she had knocked the anchor light off when she was stepping the mast, but could not find the fixture. I have really looked the mast over and can't find a place where it might have been attached. Can you help me, again? Thanks, Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig
Craig, Steve R. sent a link that shows a bow pulpit mounted red and green light. the smaller 25 standard: http://www.aquasignal.de/pdf/lob2004/S025.pdf Look at the lower right corner of the page. This is the one I installed and it works quite well. The wireing goes through the deck under the center of the bow pulpit pad, inside of the stainless steel tubing. You drill a hole in the lower side of the tube at the center point to mount the wiring and unit. thanks Doug __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
Yes, I like that arrangement. Again, thanks, Doug. I love night-sailing, so I want to be wired for t. --Craig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Kelch" <doug_kelch@yahoo.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 2:47 PM Subject: masthead tricolor -- thanks, doug Craig, Steve R. sent a link that shows a bow pulpit mounted red and green light. the smaller 25 standard: http://www.aquasignal.de/pdf/lob2004/S025.pdf Look at the lower right corner of the page. This is the one I installed and it works quite well. The wireing goes through the deck under the center of the bow pulpit pad, inside of the stainless steel tubing. You drill a hole in the lower side of the tube at the center point to mount the wiring and unit. thanks Doug
Since "Audasea" is #278, I'd guess your setup is similar to mine! She came with a small Perko all around light on top of the mast, which corroded away. It actually came apart in pieces. I replaced it with an Aqua-Signal 25, all around. It mounts on a small 2 piece bracket, which is made from 1/8" x 3/4" flat aluminum, which is riveted to the masthead. I have a picture of it I can send you. (reply to my email at haudsley@tranquility.net). One end of the bracket supports the light. On the other end is a Windex. The wiring runs from the electric panel, up through cored sections of the cabin top and exits the cabin top near the top of the support column on the V-berth. The wiring ends in a quick disconnect, thru-deck fitting , which is mounted to port of the deck step for the mast. Wires then run inside the mast. It also has a small Perko red/green light forward on the deck, and a 120 degree white light on the port stern. These were used instead of a masthead tri-color. If you go that route, you will have to run all new wires to the masthead. Howard Audsley M-17 #278 Audasea On 1/10/04 6:55 PM, "Bill Sylvester" <wmcsyl1@cox.net> wrote:
Endelig is coming along. I am now working on the lighting. Cabin and fore and aft running lights are now working. Did old M-17's have a masthead anchor light? There is a switch on the panel which says "Mast" and a dead end wire at the aft edge of the forward hatch but I see no evidence of an opening or wire stub going to the mast or a place for mounting on the masthead. The previous owner told me that she had knocked the anchor light off when she was stepping the mast, but could not find the fixture. I have really looked the mast over and can't find a place where it might have been attached. Can you help me, again?
Thanks,
Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig
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Thanks for the info. again I greatly appreciate how this group comes to the aid of even the smallest of questions with solutions to solve the problem.
Bill Sylvester M-17 #279 Endelig
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