Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks, Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On a fractional rig with decent room to maneuver, I would come to dock ( if necessary under sail) with jib down and main up. Main can be used to ‘brake’ by backing when approaching. Jib also blocks view. This is only if you must ‘sail’ in, better practice is to motor in with all sails down to ensure more control. Try it on empty dock for practice. Have fUn,go sailing! GO On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
Thanks for all the tips. Appreciate it. Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Nov 2, 2021, at 5:47 PM, Gary H.Oberbeck <fairandsquare1@gmail.com> wrote:
On a fractional rig with decent room to maneuver, I would come to dock ( if necessary under sail) with jib down and main up. Main can be used to ‘brake’ by backing when approaching. Jib also blocks view. This is only if you must ‘sail’ in, better practice is to motor in with all sails down to ensure more control. Try it on empty dock for practice. Have fUn,go sailing! GO
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 4:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com <mailto:montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com>> wrote: Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky <https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky> Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ <https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/>
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
In general I'd leave the main up and drop the headsail. Now if I needed couldn't be head to wind so I can depower the main I'd use the jib. This also assumes no upwind work needed to get to the slip. Again this is on a M17 based upon my long experience with the boat. If someone that has _never_ sailed a M17 said to use just the headsail I'd take their recommendation with a HUGE amount of sea salt. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 4:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On an M15 most def would do it under main alone. Going to weather an M15 is a dog under main alone but even worse under jib alone. :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 4:50 PM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
In general I'd leave the main up and drop the headsail.
Now if I needed couldn't be head to wind so I can depower the main I'd use the jib. This also assumes no upwind work needed to get to the slip.
Again this is on a M17 based upon my long experience with the boat.
If someone that has _never_ sailed a M17 said to use just the headsail I'd take their recommendation with a HUGE amount of sea salt.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 4:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
👍 Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky) San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/ "We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
On Nov 2, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
On an M15 most def would do it under main alone. Going to weather an M15 is a dog under main alone but even worse under jib alone.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 4:50 PM Dave Scobie <scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote:
In general I'd leave the main up and drop the headsail.
Now if I needed couldn't be head to wind so I can depower the main I'd use the jib. This also assumes no upwind work needed to get to the slip.
Again this is on a M17 based upon my long experience with the boat.
If someone that has _never_ sailed a M17 said to use just the headsail I'd take their recommendation with a HUGE amount of sea salt.
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021, 4:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
Keep the jib up if you need to beat to windward in a breeze, but by all means drop the jib coming in to dock as part of slowing down for a controlled approach! Making me miss the summer evening return under sail, knowing folks are watching how you’ll dock… On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 7:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
Yeah dousing the jib is for all the old salts I know standard procedure for coming up to a dock, slip, or mooring buoy. For me as well on my M17 and anything else I've sailed with a jib. Ideally one turns head to wind at end of approach and stalls out at point of reaching dock or buoy or entering slip. Not always possible depending on orientation of dock/slip and direction of wind... :-o At least somewhat into wind (at least more than wind on beam) can be good enough, as the main can still be de-powered by letting it out until it luffs. And for sure it's less dicey with just the main and no jib to suddenly catch air and accelerate when one is trying to decelerate! The times I've had a slip, I've almost always managed to have one with head to normal prevailing wind (or close enough) and could sail out and in. I am also mostly the only person who ever does sail out and in, in the marinas I've been in. Everyone else just fires up their motor. For me that's a missed opportunity - great learning experience/challenge of sailing seamanship, to be able to sail on or off mooring, dock, slip, without needing a motor. cheers, John On 11/2/21 7:15 PM, Alex Conley wrote:
Keep the jib up if you need to beat to windward in a breeze, but by all means drop the jib coming in to dock as part of slowing down for a controlled approach! Making me miss the summer evening return under sail, knowing folks are watching how you’ll dock…
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 7:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
That said, I have at times left the jib set until quite late in the docking game, if I am in a situation of having to go quite close upwind, or tack upwind, especially in a confined space, to get where I need to go. The M17 is great in so many ways, but if there were any weaknesses, tight maneuvering in flukey wind with main alone might be one. But that could be said of many boats... :-) cheers, John On 11/2/21 8:34 PM, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yeah dousing the jib is for all the old salts I know standard procedure for coming up to a dock, slip, or mooring buoy. For me as well on my M17 and anything else I've sailed with a jib.
Ideally one turns head to wind at end of approach and stalls out at point of reaching dock or buoy or entering slip.
Not always possible depending on orientation of dock/slip and direction of wind... :-o At least somewhat into wind (at least more than wind on beam) can be good enough, as the main can still be de-powered by letting it out until it luffs.
And for sure it's less dicey with just the main and no jib to suddenly catch air and accelerate when one is trying to decelerate!
The times I've had a slip, I've almost always managed to have one with head to normal prevailing wind (or close enough) and could sail out and in. I am also mostly the only person who ever does sail out and in, in the marinas I've been in. Everyone else just fires up their motor.
For me that's a missed opportunity - great learning experience/challenge of sailing seamanship, to be able to sail on or off mooring, dock, slip, without needing a motor.
cheers, John
On 11/2/21 7:15 PM, Alex Conley wrote:
Keep the jib up if you need to beat to windward in a breeze, but by all means drop the jib coming in to dock as part of slowing down for a controlled approach! Making me miss the summer evening return under sail, knowing folks are watching how you’ll dock…
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 7:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
And for me it’s the sculling oar ………never the gassail. Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> ________________________________ From: John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 2, 2021 8:54:52 PM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Cc: John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> Subject: M_Boats: Re: Jib That said, I have at times left the jib set until quite late in the docking game, if I am in a situation of having to go quite close upwind, or tack upwind, especially in a confined space, to get where I need to go. The M17 is great in so many ways, but if there were any weaknesses, tight maneuvering in flukey wind with main alone might be one. But that could be said of many boats... :-) cheers, John On 11/2/21 8:34 PM, John Schinnerer via montgomery_boats wrote:
Yeah dousing the jib is for all the old salts I know standard procedure for coming up to a dock, slip, or mooring buoy. For me as well on my M17 and anything else I've sailed with a jib.
Ideally one turns head to wind at end of approach and stalls out at point of reaching dock or buoy or entering slip.
Not always possible depending on orientation of dock/slip and direction of wind... :-o At least somewhat into wind (at least more than wind on beam) can be good enough, as the main can still be de-powered by letting it out until it luffs.
And for sure it's less dicey with just the main and no jib to suddenly catch air and accelerate when one is trying to decelerate!
The times I've had a slip, I've almost always managed to have one with head to normal prevailing wind (or close enough) and could sail out and in. I am also mostly the only person who ever does sail out and in, in the marinas I've been in. Everyone else just fires up their motor.
For me that's a missed opportunity - great learning experience/challenge of sailing seamanship, to be able to sail on or off mooring, dock, slip, without needing a motor.
cheers, John
On 11/2/21 7:15 PM, Alex Conley wrote:
Keep the jib up if you need to beat to windward in a breeze, but by all means drop the jib coming in to dock as part of slowing down for a controlled approach! Making me miss the summer evening return under sail, knowing folks are watching how you’ll dock…
On Tue, Nov 2, 2021 at 7:40 PM Peter Zimowsky via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Hi folks: For years when I’m coming into the dock under sail, I’ve dropped the jib and come in on the main sail. Now I’m hearing people that you don’t drop the jib. What’s the consensus? Thanks,
Pete WinterSky (Zimowsky)
San Juan Islander lost inland - an old salty stuck in the sagebrush
outdoors writer and photographer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pzimowsky Twitter: @zimosoutdoors The Northwest Outdoors Journey: https://outdoorsnorthwest.home.blog/2019/03/13/the-journey-begins/
"We Can Not Control the Wind But We Can Adjust Our Sails"
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
I have not posted in a while and was not sure how to, so i replied all to a rececent thread. I hope it works. I have a 2013 M17 and have been having trouble with my keel getting stuck and not dropping down. It's in the shop now. They made sure there was not debris causing the issue. It seems to be making contact with the trunk behind the pin. Can anyone suggest a fix for this? Thanks,Ron McNeilPhoenix AZJackpot M17 #675
That’s weird Ron. Being lead filled (hull and centerboard) it would never swell up. If it’s in the shop have them hoist the boat and pull the board down to inspect it. Let me know what they find. Bob Eeg Sent from my iPad
On Nov 3, 2021, at 4:05 PM, Ronald McNeil via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote: I have not posted in a while and was not sure how to, so i replied all to a rececent thread. I hope it works. I have a 2013 M17 and have been having trouble with my keel getting stuck and not dropping down. It's in the shop now. They made sure there was not debris causing the issue. It seems to be making contact with the trunk behind the pin. Can anyone suggest a fix for this? Thanks,Ron McNeilPhoenix AZJackpot M17 #675
Ron: Yes as stated a lead ballasted boat shouldn't have swelling in keel nor centerboard. Things like twigs, pebbles and the errant nut or bolt are the usual cause. Another possibility is the knot for the centerboard pennant is to large and rubbing/squeezing in the trunk. Is the boat kept on-water or is she usually on the trailer? :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 4:05 PM Ronald McNeil via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I have not posted in a while and was not sure how to, so i replied all to a rececent thread. I hope it works. I have a 2013 M17 and have been having trouble with my keel getting stuck and not dropping down. It's in the shop now. They made sure there was not debris causing the issue. It seems to be making contact with the trunk behind the pin. Can anyone suggest a fix for this? Thanks,Ron McNeilPhoenix AZJackpot M17 #675
Dave and Bob, thanks for your responses.The boat has only sat on the water over night about 2 times. :( Question.To drop and install the Keel is it simple as knocking out the pin and hammer it back in? Thanks, Ron Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM, Dave Scobie<scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote: Ron: Yes as stated a lead ballasted boat shouldn't have swelling in keel nor centerboard. Things like twigs, pebbles and the errant nut or bolt are the usual cause. Another possibility is the knot for the centerboard pennant is to large and rubbing/squeezing in the trunk. Is the boat kept on-water or is she usually on the trailer? :: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site! On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 4:05 PM Ronald McNeil via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I have not posted in a while and was not sure how to, so i replied all to a rececent thread. I hope it works. I have a 2013 M17 and have been having trouble with my keel getting stuck and not dropping down. It's in the shop now. They made sure there was not debris causing the issue. It seems to be making contact with the trunk behind the pin. Can anyone suggest a fix for this? Thanks,Ron McNeilPhoenix AZJackpot M17 #675
Ron Yes, just tap the 3/8 pin right to left and be ready to catch the board. When reinstalling move the board up to line up the holes and butter up the pin beforehand with 5200. Wipe any excess off with a squeegee. Flush. Let us know what you find Ron. Bob Sent from my iPad
On Nov 4, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Ronald McNeil via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Dave and Bob, thanks for your responses.The boat has only sat on the water over night about 2 times. :( Question.To drop and install the Keel is it simple as knocking out the pin and hammer it back in? Thanks, Ron
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM, Dave Scobie<scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote: Ron:
Yes as stated a lead ballasted boat shouldn't have swelling in keel nor centerboard.
Things like twigs, pebbles and the errant nut or bolt are the usual cause.
Another possibility is the knot for the centerboard pennant is to large and rubbing/squeezing in the trunk.
Is the boat kept on-water or is she usually on the trailer?
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 4:05 PM Ronald McNeil via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I have not posted in a while and was not sure how to, so i replied all to a rececent thread. I hope it works. I have a 2013 M17 and have been having trouble with my keel getting stuck and not dropping down. It's in the shop now. They made sure there was not debris causing the issue. It seems to be making contact with the trunk behind the pin. Can anyone suggest a fix for this? Thanks,Ron McNeilPhoenix AZJackpot M17 #675
Bob is right to left port to starbord? Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 12:55 PM, Bob Eeg<montgomeryboats@hotmail.com> wrote: Ron Yes, just tap the 3/8 pin right to left and be ready to catch the board. When reinstalling move the board up to line up the holes and butter up the pin beforehand with 5200. Wipe any excess off with a squeegee. Flush. Let us know what you find Ron. Bob Sent from my iPad
On Nov 4, 2021, at 12:03 PM, Ronald McNeil via montgomery_boats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
Dave and Bob, thanks for your responses.The boat has only sat on the water over night about 2 times. :( Question.To drop and install the Keel is it simple as knocking out the pin and hammer it back in? Thanks, Ron
Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 8:41 AM, Dave Scobie<scoobscobie@gmail.com> wrote: Ron:
Yes as stated a lead ballasted boat shouldn't have swelling in keel nor centerboard.
Things like twigs, pebbles and the errant nut or bolt are the usual cause.
Another possibility is the knot for the centerboard pennant is to large and rubbing/squeezing in the trunk.
Is the boat kept on-water or is she usually on the trailer?
:: Dave Scobie :: M6'8" #650 :: Baba 30 #233 DEJA VU :: SV SWALLOW - sv-swallow.com :: former owner M17 #375 SWEET PEA - m17-375.com :: former owner M15 #288 SCRED - m15namedscred.wordpress.com <<-- new site!
On Wed, Nov 3, 2021, 4:05 PM Ronald McNeil via montgomery_boats < montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> wrote:
I have not posted in a while and was not sure how to, so i replied all to a rececent thread. I hope it works. I have a 2013 M17 and have been having trouble with my keel getting stuck and not dropping down. It's in the shop now. They made sure there was not debris causing the issue. It seems to be making contact with the trunk behind the pin. Can anyone suggest a fix for this? Thanks,Ron McNeilPhoenix AZJackpot M17 #675
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