One more question, while I’m at it. I keep my Montgomery 17 on a trailer at a marina in Seabrook, TX, where I have access to a crane that the local J-boat and Catalina racers use to hoist their boats into Clear Lake. Although there is a boat ramp nearby, it often gets very congested with other boats, especially on weekends. It would be easier to use the crane (as I did with the J-80 I had previously) to put my M-17 into the water. Has anyone else fitted their M-17 with a hoist point, and if so, how did they do it? Alternatively, has anyone constructed a sling for their M-17? Either approach would work. Thanks, Ed Cazier M-17 “Scooby Doo” - #888
A tag-on question - are the u-bolts in the transom of my M17 (two, one each side, not too low, not too high) for lifting points? Or for towing things? I think not towing because they would be hard to work with safely compared to one of the cleats on the coaming - especially to release a tow in an emergency. cheers, john S. On 06/03/2017 01:01 PM, Edward Cazier wrote:
One more question, while I’m at it.
I keep my Montgomery 17 on a trailer at a marina in Seabrook, TX, where I have access to a crane that the local J-boat and Catalina racers use to hoist their boats into Clear Lake. Although there is a boat ramp nearby, it often gets very congested with other boats, especially on weekends. It would be easier to use the crane (as I did with the J-80 I had previously) to put my M-17 into the water.
Has anyone else fitted their M-17 with a hoist point, and if so, how did they do it? Alternatively, has anyone constructed a sling for their M-17? Either approach would work.
Thanks,
Ed Cazier M-17 “Scooby Doo” - #888
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Those u-bolts are probably for trailer tie-downs. Almost universal on power boats. My M17 came to me with a pair but I didn't care for the aesthetics so I took them off. I would never use those to lift the boat. -----Original Message----- From: John Schinnerer Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:39 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Hoist point for M-17 A tag-on question - are the u-bolts in the transom of my M17 (two, one each side, not too low, not too high) for lifting points? Or for towing things? I think not towing because they would be hard to work with safely compared to one of the cleats on the coaming - especially to release a tow in an emergency. cheers, john S. On 06/03/2017 01:01 PM, Edward Cazier wrote:
One more question, while I’m at it.
I keep my Montgomery 17 on a trailer at a marina in Seabrook, TX, where I have access to a crane that the local J-boat and Catalina racers use to hoist their boats into Clear Lake. Although there is a boat ramp nearby, it often gets very congested with other boats, especially on weekends. It would be easier to use the crane (as I did with the J-80 I had previously) to put my M-17 into the water.
Has anyone else fitted their M-17 with a hoist point, and if so, how did they do it? Alternatively, has anyone constructed a sling for their M-17? Either approach would work.
Thanks,
Ed Cazier M-17 “Scooby Doo” - #888
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
What kind of crane - single attachment point? Or rectangular frame with attachment points at corners? If the latter, it's easy - I operated one of those as part of a summer job when I was a teenager, launched all kinds of different boats. You just need two suitably rated webbing slings with suitably rated hooks to attach to the frame. Sling one fore and one aft, just outside the trailer bunks, hook up to the frame, and up and in you go. I think you could do essentially the same with a single hook crane, but with attention to keeping the slings from bending or breaking anything above the gunwale as they come together to a single point. cheers, John S. On 06/03/2017 01:01 PM, Edward Cazier wrote:
One more question, while I’m at it.
I keep my Montgomery 17 on a trailer at a marina in Seabrook, TX, where I have access to a crane that the local J-boat and Catalina racers use to hoist their boats into Clear Lake. Although there is a boat ramp nearby, it often gets very congested with other boats, especially on weekends. It would be easier to use the crane (as I did with the J-80 I had previously) to put my M-17 into the water.
Has anyone else fitted their M-17 with a hoist point, and if so, how did they do it? Alternatively, has anyone constructed a sling for their M-17? Either approach would work.
Thanks,
Ed Cazier M-17 “Scooby Doo” - #888
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
John- it was a single attachment point on the J80, and that was very easy to manage. The J80 had a hoist point at the base of the companionway, on the top of the keel. Ideally it would be the same set up on the M-17, if there is a point that is equally strong as on the J80. Ed.
On Jun 3, 2017, at 6:47 PM, John Schinnerer <john@eco-living.net> wrote:
What kind of crane - single attachment point? Or rectangular frame with attachment points at corners?
If the latter, it's easy - I operated one of those as part of a summer job when I was a teenager, launched all kinds of different boats.
You just need two suitably rated webbing slings with suitably rated hooks to attach to the frame. Sling one fore and one aft, just outside the trailer bunks, hook up to the frame, and up and in you go.
I think you could do essentially the same with a single hook crane, but with attention to keeping the slings from bending or breaking anything above the gunwale as they come together to a single point.
cheers, John S.
On 06/03/2017 01:01 PM, Edward Cazier wrote:
One more question, while I’m at it. I keep my Montgomery 17 on a trailer at a marina in Seabrook, TX, where I have access to a crane that the local J-boat and Catalina racers use to hoist their boats into Clear Lake. Although there is a boat ramp nearby, it often gets very congested with other boats, especially on weekends. It would be easier to use the crane (as I did with the J-80 I had previously) to put my M-17 into the water. Has anyone else fitted their M-17 with a hoist point, and if so, how did they do it? Alternatively, has anyone constructed a sling for their M-17? Either approach would work. Thanks, Ed Cazier M-17 “Scooby Doo” - #888
-- John Schinnerer - M.A., Whole Systems Design -------------------------------------------- - Eco-Living - Whole Systems Design Services People - Place - Learning - Integration john@eco-living.net - 510.982.1334 http://eco-living.net http://sociocracyconsulting.com
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