Montypals: OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden voyage in M15 #208. Thanks for all the nice comments. Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward like I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when driving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a bit of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to hold her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The gelcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no hole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair this? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! Epoxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here? Daniel
daniel: sorry to read about your challenge. the m-boats are well built and can take hard use. what i describe below will assure you have no further damage from water getting into the fiberglass and creating problems later. any 'dry' looking fiberglass tape/mat/fiber must be wetting out to re-seal. once this is done all voids can be filled and faired to match the bow's shape. take a look at this - http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai... i recommend sections 2, 4 and 8.2. once the epoxy work is done you must protect the repair from the sun (UV) damage. a topside marine paint or gelcoat will work. i suggest paint as an invisible repair isn't your primary concern. :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden voyage in M15 #208. Thanks for all the nice comments.
Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward like I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when driving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a bit of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to hold her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The gelcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no hole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair this? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! Epoxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here?
Daniel
I have the West Systems stuff at home now, as I will soon re-bed a bunch of the deck hardware. So, while I have some epoxy mixed, I guess I will wet out the damaged area. Fortunately, this area is way above the waterline, and not a problem. I have that pdf, so I will take a look at it. Daniel On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:29 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
daniel:
sorry to read about your challenge. the m-boats are well built and can take hard use. what i describe below will assure you have no further damage from water getting into the fiberglass and creating problems later.
any 'dry' looking fiberglass tape/mat/fiber must be wetting out to re-seal. once this is done all voids can be filled and faired to match the bow's shape.
take a look at this -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
i recommend sections 2, 4 and 8.2.
once the epoxy work is done you must protect the repair from the sun (UV) damage. a topside marine paint or gelcoat will work. i suggest paint as an invisible repair isn't your primary concern.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden voyage in M15 #208. Thanks for all the nice comments.
Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward like I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when driving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a bit of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to hold her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The gelcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no hole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair this? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! Epoxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here?
Daniel
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daniel: i too am in the midst of rebedding, and adding, hardware. the summary 'big item' list is: rebedding the bow pulpit and motor mount, adding a transom boarding ladder, and adding a bow bi-colored light. i'm using a friend's son to crawl to the transom for removing/attaching hardware - small spaces on our small boats ... lol. details of the above and past projects are outlined, with pictures, on my boat's www-site (see below). :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us --- On Sun, 4/3/11, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
I have the West Systems stuff at home now, as I will soon re-bed a bunch of the deck hardware. So, while I have some epoxy mixed, I guess I will wet out the damaged area. Fortunately, this area is way above the waterline, and not a problem. I have that pdf, so I will take a look at it.
Daniel
On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:29 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
daniel:
sorry to read about your challenge. the m-boats are well built and can take hard use. what i describe below will assure you have no further damage from water getting into the fiberglass and creating problems later.
any 'dry' looking fiberglass tape/mat/fiber must be wetting out to re-seal. once this is done all voids can be filled and faired to match the bow's shape.
take a look at this -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
i recommend sections 2, 4 and 8.2.
once the epoxy work is done you must protect the repair from the sun (UV) damage. a topside marine paint or gelcoat will work. i suggest paint as an invisible repair isn't your primary concern.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden
voyage
in M15 #208. Thanks for all the nice comments.
Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward like I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when driving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a bit of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to hold her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The gelcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no hole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair this? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! Epoxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here?
Daniel
Yeah, I gotta find the time to get some of this done. I am a full time ophthalmologist with a busy practice! Fortunately, daylight savings time is here, and it looks like we are done with the rain, so the rebedding can wait just a bit... I have been to your website. Very nice and helpful! Daniel On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:47 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
daniel:
i too am in the midst of rebedding, and adding, hardware.
the summary 'big item' list is: rebedding the bow pulpit and motor mount, adding a transom boarding ladder, and adding a bow bi-colored light.
i'm using a friend's son to crawl to the transom for removing/attaching hardware - small spaces on our small boats ... lol.
details of the above and past projects are outlined, with pictures, on my boat's www-site (see below).
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
I have the West Systems stuff at home now, as I will soon re-bed a bunch of the deck hardware. So, while I have some epoxy mixed, I guess I will wet out the damaged area. Fortunately, this area is way above the waterline, and not a problem. I have that pdf, so I will take a look at it.
Daniel
On Apr 3, 2011, at 9:29 PM, W David Scobie wrote:
daniel:
sorry to read about your challenge. the m-boats are well built and can take hard use. what i describe below will assure you have no further damage from water getting into the fiberglass and creating problems later.
any 'dry' looking fiberglass tape/mat/fiber must be wetting out to re-seal. once this is done all voids can be filled and faired to match the bow's shape.
take a look at this -
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/assets/HowTo-Publications/Fiberglass-Boat-Repai...
i recommend sections 2, 4 and 8.2.
once the epoxy work is done you must protect the repair from the sun (UV) damage. a topside marine paint or gelcoat will work. i suggest paint as an invisible repair isn't your primary concern.
:: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
--- On Sun, 4/3/11, Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> wrote:
Montypals:
OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden
voyage
in M15 #208. Thanks for all the nice comments.
Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward like I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when driving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a bit of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to hold her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The gelcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no hole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair this? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! Epoxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here?
Daniel
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Daniel, Sorry to hear about the damage to your Monty. To assist me with pulling my Monty onto the bunks, I purchased a set (8 pieces 8" long) of bunk glides from Bass Pro shop. They are made out of some special Teflon material so that you can push the boat onto the bunks easily. I've never had an issue getting my boat back onto the bunks again. Good luck with the repair. Skip -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 11:22 pm Subject: M_Boats: Advice regarding some damage to bow Montypals: OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden voyage in M15 #208. Thanks or all the nice comments. Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward ike I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when riving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a it of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to old her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The elcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no ole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair his? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! poxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here? Daniel ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
Thanks for the advice. I will look into it. I sail alone often, so I need to have some aids to help me. My other boat weighs much less, so much easier to man handle. Daniel On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:35 AM, wcampion@aol.com wrote:
Daniel,
Sorry to hear about the damage to your Monty. To assist me with pulling my Monty onto the bunks, I purchased a set (8 pieces 8" long) of bunk glides from Bass Pro shop. They are made out of some special Teflon material so that you can push the boat onto the bunks easily. I've never had an issue getting my boat back onto the bunks again.
Good luck with the repair.
Skip
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 11:22 pm Subject: M_Boats: Advice regarding some damage to bow
Montypals: OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden voyage in M15 #208. Thanks or all the nice comments. Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward ike I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when riving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a it of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to old her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The elcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no ole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair his? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! poxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here? Daniel ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
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Daniel, I have noticed that on the steeper ramps when you initially snug up the bow it is slightly lower than the tow position. When you pull the boat out the stern drops, the bow lifts and the bow is about 2 - 3 inchs farther aft than the bow chock. If you only pull out far enough for the stern to drop you can stop the car and snug up the bow easily while there is still some hull lift from the water. This saves money on banana's as well as wear an tear on the trailer and hull. Thanks Doug ________________________________ From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 7:53:01 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice regarding some damage to bow Thanks for the advice. I will look into it. I sail alone often, so I need to have some aids to help me. My other boat weighs much less, so much easier to man handle. Daniel On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:35 AM, wcampion@aol.com wrote:
Daniel,
Sorry to hear about the damage to your Monty. To assist me with pulling my Monty onto the bunks, I purchased a set (8 pieces 8" long) of bunk glides from Bass Pro shop. They are made out of some special Teflon material so that you can push the boat onto the bunks easily. I've never had an issue getting my boat back onto the bunks again.
Good luck with the repair.
Skip
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rich <danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 11:22 pm Subject: M_Boats: Advice regarding some damage to bow
Montypals: OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden voyage in M15 #208. Thanks or all the nice comments. Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward ike I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when riving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a
it of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to old her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The elcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no
ole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair
his? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! poxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here? Daniel ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
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Another good trick! Keep 'em coming. Like so many things I have had to learn the hard way. In this case it costs me some time and effort to fix the bow now! Daniel On 4/4/2011 10:00 AM, Doug Kelch wrote:
Daniel,
I have noticed that on the steeper ramps when you initially snug up the bow it is slightly lower than the tow position. When you pull the boat out the stern drops, the bow lifts and the bow is about 2 - 3 inchs farther aft than the bow chock.
If you only pull out far enough for the stern to drop you can stop the car and snug up the bow easily while there is still some hull lift from the water.
This saves money on banana's as well as wear an tear on the trailer and hull.
Thanks
Doug
________________________________ From: Daniel Rich<danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Mon, April 4, 2011 7:53:01 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: Advice regarding some damage to bow
Thanks for the advice. I will look into it. I sail alone often, so I need to have some aids to help me. My other boat weighs much less, so much easier to man handle.
Daniel On Apr 4, 2011, at 5:35 AM, wcampion@aol.com wrote:
Daniel,
Sorry to hear about the damage to your Monty. To assist me with pulling my Monty onto the bunks, I purchased a set (8 pieces 8" long) of bunk glides from Bass Pro shop. They are made out of some special Teflon material so that you can push the boat onto the bunks easily. I've never had an issue getting my boat back onto the bunks again.
Good luck with the repair.
Skip
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel Rich<danielgrich@gmail.com> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats<montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Sun, Apr 3, 2011 11:22 pm Subject: M_Boats: Advice regarding some damage to bow
Montypals: OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden voyage in M15 #208. Thanks or all the nice comments. Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward ike I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when riving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a it of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to old her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The elcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no ole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair
his? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! poxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here? Daniel ______________________________________________ ttp://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!
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The Sage 17 molds have been moved from CA to CO. Sal and Gail Glesser have shared details and pictures in the Sage Marine forum in the 'Sage Marine News and Announcements' sub-forum. http://www.sagemarine.us/forum :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.us
Daniel, I don't know about the repair, but my 17 also ends up several inches short of the roller when I load on a steep ramp. Fortunately, someone told me to put some soap on the bottom bunk before retrieving, and tap the brakes smartly in the parking lot when I have the boat on; the boat slides forward against the roller. Tom Jenkins M17 Scintilla On Apr 3, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Daniel Rich wrote:
Montypals:
OK, many of you have seen my video about my maiden voyage in M15 #208. Thanks for all the nice comments.
Now, when I got her back on the trailer, I didn't get her all the way forward like I should have, She was about 2-3 inches short of the bumper. So, when driving home over potholed Sonoma county roads, she jostled around and caused a bit of damage to the bow. The spot is above the pad eye where the hook goes to hold her to the trailer. It is about 1 inch by say 1/2 inch of damage. The gelcoat is sort of bashed off to expose some underlying fiberglass. There is no hole or crack. Structurally it is fine. So, what would be a simple way to repair this? I don't need it to be too cosmetically perfect. The boat is from 1982! Epoxy? Marinetex? Thoughts here?
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