I use a setup similar to Steve Tyree's, except I use two bungee loops with a length of line tied between them. So there's a bungee loop over the port stern cleat with a piece of line between it and the loop on the starboard cleat. No knot tying...just flip the loop over both cleats and it remains taut between until you pull it forward and into the cleat on the underside of the tiller. Easy. Cheap. Tom Smith and Jane Van Winkle M15/345 -- Chukar Sandpoint, Idaho Tom Smith LineSoft Corporation Phone: 509-928-1707 ext. 248 Fax: 509-928-2581 E-mail: tsmith@linesoft.com Website: www.linesoft.com -----Original Message----- From: IDCLLC@aol.com [mailto:IDCLLC@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 4:48 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: Re: M_Boats: Tiller tamer I use a very simple tiller lock on my P-15 that has served me well. It consists of a long, heavy bungee cord fastened from one stern cleat to the other, and a jam cleat mounted on the underside of the tiller and about 8" forward of the bungee. To use, simply pull the bungee up onto the jam cleat while on course. I've found it easy to micro adjust, and have cruised hands off for upwards of 10 minutes this way. Considering the greater directional stability of the M-boats, I think it would work even better for you, and the price is right! Steve Tyree, P-15 #2098 "Amy Ann"