Hi Everyone, In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat. I have two questions: 1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift. 2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming? Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing. Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member Hi Everyone, In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat. I have two questions: 1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift. 2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming? Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing. Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3658/6923 - Release Date: 12/15/13
Thanks, Steve. Very helpful. ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of stevetrapp [stevetrapp@q.com] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:32 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member Hi Everyone, In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat. I have two questions: 1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift. 2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming? Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing. Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3658/6923 - Release Date: 12/15/13
I don't recommend a rope latter. I've tried a few times and can never get back in a boat with them. When you put your weight on them they swing under the boat. A fixed mount is a good option for safety reasons. If you fall overboard it's always there. When we swim off the back of my boat I hang a bumper or a throwable off about 50' of polypropylene line, which floats. Then we stay between the boat and the float. Note, even on a lake the wind can push the boat faster than you can swim. I've been there and it's scary. Regards, Ron McNeil Jackpot M17 #675 On Monday, December 16, 2013 9:07 PM, "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote: Thanks, Steve. Very helpful. ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of stevetrapp [stevetrapp@q.com] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 10:32 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member Hi Everyone, In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat. I have two questions: 1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift. 2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming? Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing. Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3462 / Virus Database: 3658/6923 - Release Date: 12/15/13
Kevin, I used one of those top hook ladders on my boat after trying a rope ladder. The problem with a rope ladder is that it tended to just fold along the hull under water when I stood on the bottom rung. It took a lot of upper body strength to haul myself out from under the boat and up the side. Then too the rungs being so close to the hull allowed only a toehold on each one. My girlfriend could not do it. Using the solid ladder with standoff legs alleviated all those problems. Tom B M17 #258 On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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I recall having a similar experience with an over the transom hook ladder with my M-15. Also watched the boat drift away faster than I could swim to catch it. So I learned about swimming from my boat by the school of experience. Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Buzzi" <thomaspbuzzi@gmail.com> To: "For and about Montgomery Sailboats" <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:13 AM Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin, I used one of those top hook ladders on my boat after trying a rope ladder. The problem with a rope ladder is that it tended to just fold along the hull under water when I stood on the bottom rung. It took a lot of upper body strength to haul myself out from under the boat and up the side. Then too the rungs being so close to the hull allowed only a toehold on each one. My girlfriend could not do it. Using the solid ladder with standoff legs alleviated all those problems.
Tom B M17 #258
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 9:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Kevin, Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it. In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-) If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports. Thanks Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310 Doug On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Doug I will take you up on your offer of instructions for mounting a swim ladder. I have a M15 like your self. What ladder do you recommend I have noticed in pictures that some Monty's have a collapsible ladder this strikes be as the best of both worlds rigid and small. George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Kevin, Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it. In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapacitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-) If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports. Thanks Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310 Doug On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathlon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Doug, Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Kevin, Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it. In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-) If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports. Thanks Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310 Doug On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Doug, How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws. Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder. Thanks, Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!" On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct? Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento... -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Doug, How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws. Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder. Thanks, Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!" On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Larry I installed my ladder by drilling holes in the transom and screwing the bolts into stainless steel backing plates that I threaded. I used fishing line to guide the plates into position. No access holes. very bristol installation Capt James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15) -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct? Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento... -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Doug, How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws. Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder. Thanks, Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!" On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Capt. James I hear you but can not envision how to get it done? George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Jim Sadler Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 1:55 PM To: 'For and about Montgomery Sailboats' Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Larry I installed my ladder by drilling holes in the transom and screwing the bolts into stainless steel backing plates that I threaded. I used fishing line to guide the plates into position. No access holes. very bristol installation Capt James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15) -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct? Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento... -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member Doug, How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws. Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder. Thanks, Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!" On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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http://msog.org/how-to/how-to_flotjet.cfm#bolt_transom For directions on the transom mount without am access port. I did my swim ladder install this way as well. Doug On Dec 17, 2013 12:56 PM, "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Larry
I installed my ladder by drilling holes in the transom and screwing the bolts into stainless steel backing plates that I threaded. I used fishing line to guide the plates into position. No access holes. very bristol installation
Capt James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct?
Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento...
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug,
How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws.
Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder.
Thanks,
Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!"
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Doug, This is a clever idea. But I'm having trouble envisioning how the T bolts were inserted. I presume the "T" portion is on the inside, resting against the inside edge of the plywood with the threaded portion poking out the back of the transom, right? The as you tighten the bolt, the "T" gets a grip on the plywood and allows you to apply some torque to the nuts. If this is the case, how did you push the T portion through the holes from the outside of the boat. I can't envision how you would get the "T" through the round hole you have drilled It seems to me you would have to be inside, pushing the threaded side outward. I'm sure I'm missing something ... Kevin ________________________________________ From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch [doug1kelch@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 8:16 PM To: Montgomery Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member http://msog.org/how-to/how-to_flotjet.cfm#bolt_transom For directions on the transom mount without am access port. I did my swim ladder install this way as well. Doug On Dec 17, 2013 12:56 PM, "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Larry
I installed my ladder by drilling holes in the transom and screwing the bolts into stainless steel backing plates that I threaded. I used fishing line to guide the plates into position. No access holes. very bristol installation
Capt James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct?
Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento...
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug,
How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws.
Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder.
Thanks,
Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!"
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Doug Thanks for the feedback this sounds a lot less expensive than installing a inspection hatch the best I could do on one was $60. George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:17 PM To: Montgomery Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member http://msog.org/how-to/how-to_flotjet.cfm#bolt_transom For directions on the transom mount without am access port. I did my swim ladder install this way as well. Doug On Dec 17, 2013 12:56 PM, "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Larry
I installed my ladder by drilling holes in the transom and screwing the bolts into stainless steel backing plates that I threaded. I used fishing line to guide the plates into position. No access holes. very bristol installation
Capt James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct?
Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento...
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug,
How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws.
Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder.
Thanks,
Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!"
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Thanks Doug. Your description of the installation makes perfect sense, and caters to my dread of cutting large holes in my boat, and also avoids having to cut an even larger hole to free the small child who would have had to help me install the backing plate. Thanks for posting that for the group. I'm sure many of us will find your instructions to be very helpful. If you don't mind me asking, what brand and type ladder did you install, and what did you seal the bolts and holes with? I remember being impressed with your ladder, but don't remember any details about it. I'm leaning toward a ladder with narrow steps, that either folds or telescopes, but haven't found exactly what I'm looking for yet. Thanks again, Bill "C" Day M-15, 363, "Gee Whiz!" On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:33 PM, George R. Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com>wrote:
Doug
Thanks for the feedback this sounds a lot less expensive than installing a inspection hatch the best I could do on one was $60.
George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:17 PM To: Montgomery Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
http://msog.org/how-to/how-to_flotjet.cfm#bolt_transom
For directions on the transom mount without am access port. I did my swim ladder install this way as well.
Doug On Dec 17, 2013 12:56 PM, "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Larry
I installed my ladder by drilling holes in the transom and screwing the bolts into stainless steel backing plates that I threaded. I used fishing line to guide the plates into position. No access holes. very bristol installation
Capt James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct?
Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento...
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug,
How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws.
Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder.
Thanks,
Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!"
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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this link to the flotsam and jetsum page is really interesting. Using the string to position the backing plate was genius. Who said mankind was not smart enough to figure out how to build the Pyramids?!? I am assuming that my M17 being a 1978 model classifies it as an "older model" so it will have the balsa cored decks, etc. Tom B Mont.17 #258 On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:33 PM, George R. Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com>wrote:
Doug
Thanks for the feedback this sounds a lot less expensive than installing a inspection hatch the best I could do on one was $60.
George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:17 PM To: Montgomery Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
http://msog.org/how-to/how-to_flotjet.cfm#bolt_transom
For directions on the transom mount without am access port. I did my swim ladder install this way as well.
Doug On Dec 17, 2013 12:56 PM, "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Larry
I installed my ladder by drilling holes in the transom and screwing the bolts into stainless steel backing plates that I threaded. I used fishing line to guide the plates into position. No access holes. very bristol installation
Capt James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct?
Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento...
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug,
How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws.
Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder.
Thanks,
Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!"
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Did some digging and found that the ladder I ended up with was from "Seasense". It is heavy duty chrome/stainless. Four step and telescopes. Just release a velcro tab and the ladder deploys straight down so you won't have to worry about snagging any of the boat's rigging. The steps come with attached treads for better footing and it projects deep enough into the water that getting onto the bottom rung while fully clothed is no problem. All the bolting necessary can be done through the cockpit rail above the seats so bolting into a backplate inside the hull is unnecessary. It cost $115 which is a bite but having hung from the side of a boat in the Atlantic Ocean while trying to clamber back aboard changed my view of things. My wife finally retrieved the "hook over the rail" boarding ladder from the forepeak where is lived under fishing poles, life jackets and seat cushions. I am sure she took only moments to retrieve it but it seemed a lot longer to me. Fortunately we were on good terms at the time. lol. Older and wiser, Tom B M17 #258 On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:33 PM, George R. Iemmolo <griemmolo2@gmail.com>wrote:
Doug
Thanks for the feedback this sounds a lot less expensive than installing a inspection hatch the best I could do on one was $60.
George Merry Helen II 96 M15 #602
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:17 PM To: Montgomery Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
http://msog.org/how-to/how-to_flotjet.cfm#bolt_transom
For directions on the transom mount without am access port. I did my swim ladder install this way as well.
Doug On Dec 17, 2013 12:56 PM, "Jim Sadler" <jimsadler@jascopacific.com> wrote:
Larry
I installed my ladder by drilling holes in the transom and screwing the bolts into stainless steel backing plates that I threaded. I used fishing line to guide the plates into position. No access holes. very bristol installation
Capt James A Sadler Skipper sailing vessel Pelican (M15)
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Hughston, Larry@DGS Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug, I am an M-15 owner and have never seen a sure fire way of installing my swim ladder on the starboard side of the transom. If you have photos along with how the process works I would appreciate it. This ladder install has bugged me for several years. Fear of doing it wrong has plagued me.... If I recall it involves cutting an access hole with a finished "marine" cover plate. It this correct?
Thanks, Fair winds...Larry H. with "Old 189" in Sacramento...
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Bill Day Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:29 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Doug,
How about posting your instructions on the list? I would appreciate the information, and I'm sure there are a lot of others out there who would like to see it too. All of my plans to install a boarding ladder on the stern have involved finding a mechanically adept 5 year old who likes tight spaces, and doesn't know anything about child labor laws.
Having sailed with you on your boat, and having seen all of the innovative ideas you have actually put into use on your boat, I'm sure you have come up with a clever solution for the ladder.
Thanks,
Bill "C" Day M-15, #363, "Gee Whiz!"
On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Doug,
Yes, I would appreciate the instructions. Thank you.
Kevin
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Kelch Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 11:00 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member
Kevin,
Put in a permanent swim ladder as it is an essential safety item. If you ever fall overboard you cannot get back on board without it.
In the cold spring waters where you sail hypothermia is deadly within a very short time. You are incapcitated well before you die, thus ensuring your death. :-)
If you want, I can send you instructions on how to install a transom mounted ladder without cutting large holes and installing inspection ports.
Thanks
Doug Kelch Seas the Day M15 G #310
Doug
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 8:32 PM, stevetrapp <stevetrapp@q.com> wrote:
Kevin, I managed to lift my M-15 off the trailer using a 4X4 aft of the keel/center board housing, a floor jack and jack stands. Next time I will pay the fee for the boat lift at the local boat yard. I think West Marine (the big box store for boat stuff on the West Coast) carries a rope ladder that be tossed over the transom so you will not need to drill holes in your M-15. Set your hook before go swimming, my M-15 drifted on the current faster than I could keep up to swimming, and I was a triathalon swimmer at the time. Good luck Steve M-15 # 335
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kearns, Kevin P" <kkearns@pitt.edu> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 11:55 AM Subject: M_Boats: New Member
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
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Reply, Kevin Kearns, (+ Florida keys, Jiffy Reef how to?) I had the same concerns about the boat ladder. I haven't tried it yet, but I bought one of those white hook ladders from West Marine, and then removed the standoff hardware, and substituted a nice fitting white soft boat bumper and tied it to bump the boat near the bottom of the transom. I think it will be better than my old rope ladder. Maybe even good enough for my wife. I can't get to it right now since the boat is all tied down for winter. Today it is -18F outside. I don't get on the forum very often. And I am never quite sure how to properly reply. So here is how the reply button works. I am thinking about towing my M15 down to the keys next March or April, and am looking for information about the area. Ramps, hazards, restaurants, motels, campgrounds, things not to miss, etc. I also would like to hear from anyone interested in being down their around that time. I am also looking for information on how to rig my boat for jiffy reefing. Is there a good reference book, or web site, or photos somewhere in this mail list. Jim Dahlquist jim@dhlqst.com Palatine, IL On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Kearns, Kevin P <kkearns@pitt.edu> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
In the spring I purchased a 1993 Montgomery 15 in near mint condition. I enjoyed sailing her all summer on Lake Arthur about 40 miles north of Pittsburgh. I've sailed nearly all my life and have owned several boats (Flying Scot, C Scow, Capri 22, O'Day Daysailer, Compac 16). I'm really very pleased with the M-15. She is all that I hoped for and more. I'm looking forward to following posts on the forum and learning more about my boat.
I have two questions:
1. I'd like to raise the boat off the trailer (just a few inches would do) to apply antifouling paint to the portion of the hull that rests on the trailer bunks. I saw a few pictures that involved lifting the entire trailer, then bracing the boat and dropping the trailer. I don't feel comfortable doing that. Does anyone have another idea? I may just go to a marina and rent a lift.
2. I want to swim off the boat, but I'm really reluctant to drill holes in the transom for a permanent swim ladder. Can anyone recommend one of those removable ladders that hook over the rear coaming?
Thanks. As I look out my office window at the grey Pittsburgh winter, my thoughts turn to sailing.
Best wishes, Kevin Kearns Pittsburgh, PA
Jim, I'll offer an opinion on the camping part: Without a doubt, if you camp, you will want to check the Florida state parks. Do try and reserve as early as you can. Wishin' I could go too, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Jim Dahlquist Sent: Monday, January 06, 2014 1:10 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: New Member <SNIP> I am thinking about towing my M15 down to the keys next March or April, and am looking for information about the area. Ramps, hazards, restaurants, motels, campgrounds, things not to miss, etc. I also would like to hear from anyone interested in being down their around that time. I am also looking for information on how to rig my boat for jiffy reefing. Is there a good reference book, or web site, or photos somewhere in this mail list. Jim Dahlquist jim@dhlqst.com Palatine, IL
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