I have a 3HP short shaft Yamaha that came with the boat. Looking at it I see that it does not have a shift lever of any sort not even a neutral to keep the boat from moving at the start up of the motor. Does any one have a similar situation and how do you cope coming in to a dock, starting up, etc? What do most of you use on a M15? George M15 #602 NoNameYet
George, I use a 4 HP Mariner on my M-15, which is a bit more power than one might need on a lake, but I sail where I have river currents, plus the tidal currents of Puget Sound, so I figure that I need enough kick when I need to go against the current. The 4 HP has a self contained gas tank, so I do not need to clutter the cockpit with a tank and hose, and it has forward-neutral-revese, which I consider to be essential when docking or getting on-off the trailer. Steve M-15 # 335 ----- Original Message ----- From: "George R. Iemmolo" <griemmolo2@gmail.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 5:37 PM Subject: M_Boats: M15 OB
I have a 3HP short shaft Yamaha that came with the boat. Looking at it I see that it does not have a shift lever of any sort not even a neutral to keep the boat from moving at the start up of the motor.
Does any one have a similar situation and how do you cope coming in to a dock, starting up, etc?
What do most of you use on a M15?
George
M15 #602
NoNameYet
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George, you can google the manual for the motor. If it is like the Honda 2HP that I had on my M-15 it swivels to do reverse and had a friction clutch to take care of not having a shift. You start in low speed and you rev it up to get the propeller spinning. Very simple, air cooled. Nice motors. I still have mine for my M-10. Good luck! Robbin On 4/13/2013 8:37 PM, George R. Iemmolo wrote:
I have a 3HP short shaft Yamaha that came with the boat. Looking at it I see that it does not have a shift lever of any sort not even a neutral to keep the boat from moving at the start up of the motor.
Does any one have a similar situation and how do you cope coming in to a dock, starting up, etc?
What do most of you use on a M15?
George
M15 #602
NoNameYet
Robin I have manual it covers a series of motors. The one I have is the smallest. I get the reversing the motor to go in reverse. How does the fiction clutch work? Does the prop not spin when you start? What do you do when stopping beside idling the throttle and turning the motor in reverse? George -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robbin Roddewig Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:52 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 OB George, you can google the manual for the motor. If it is like the Honda 2HP that I had on my M-15 it swivels to do reverse and had a friction clutch to take care of not having a shift. You start in low speed and you rev it up to get the propeller spinning. Very simple, air cooled. Nice motors. I still have mine for my M-10. Good luck! Robbin On 4/13/2013 8:37 PM, George R. Iemmolo wrote:
I have a 3HP short shaft Yamaha that came with the boat. Looking at it I see that it does not have a shift lever of any sort not even a neutral to keep the boat from moving at the start up of the motor.
Does any one have a similar situation and how do you cope coming in to a dock, starting up, etc?
What do most of you use on a M15?
George
M15 #602
NoNameYet
Hi George, if it is a friction clutch, then yes the prop does not spin starting the motor and when it is idling. And yes when you want to stop you just idle it (same as neutral) and spin it around if you want to do reverse. All that is IF it is a friction clutch like the Honda 2hp. The nice thing (one of many) about the M-15 is that you can do most of the maneuvering with a paddle or just grabbing the dock! It is a very easy to handle boat and most of what you will be doing is sailing! Good luck! Robbin On 4/13/2013 9:47 PM, George R. Iemmolo wrote:
Robin
I have manual it covers a series of motors. The one I have is the smallest. I get the reversing the motor to go in reverse. How does the fiction clutch work? Does the prop not spin when you start? What do you do when stopping beside idling the throttle and turning the motor in reverse?
George
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robbin Roddewig Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:52 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 OB
George, you can google the manual for the motor. If it is like the Honda 2HP that I had on my M-15 it swivels to do reverse and had a friction clutch to take care of not having a shift. You start in low speed and you rev it up to get the propeller spinning. Very simple, air cooled. Nice motors. I still have mine for my M-10. Good luck!
Robbin
On 4/13/2013 8:37 PM, George R. Iemmolo wrote:
I have a 3HP short shaft Yamaha that came with the boat. Looking at it I see that it does not have a shift lever of any sort not even a neutral to keep the boat from moving at the start up of the motor.
Does any one have a similar situation and how do you cope coming in to a dock, starting up, etc?
What do most of you use on a M15?
George
M15 #602
NoNameYet
My Honda 2 does spin the prop when starting with the gas turned up to starting position. I have to throttle back after starting to disengage the friction clutch. At the dock, I just take the temporary strain on the mooring line. On the water, it doesn't matter. Rick M17#633 Lynne L On Sunday, April 14, 2013, Robbin Roddewig wrote:
Hi George, if it is a friction clutch, then yes the prop does not spin starting the motor and when it is idling. And yes when you want to stop you just idle it (same as neutral) and spin it around if you want to do reverse. All that is IF it is a friction clutch like the Honda 2hp. The nice thing (one of many) about the M-15 is that you can do most of the maneuvering with a paddle or just grabbing the dock! It is a very easy to handle boat and most of what you will be doing is sailing!
Good luck! Robbin
On 4/13/2013 9:47 PM, George R. Iemmolo wrote:
Robin
I have manual it covers a series of motors. The one I have is the smallest. I get the reversing the motor to go in reverse. How does the fiction clutch work? Does the prop not spin when you start? What do you do when stopping beside idling the throttle and turning the motor in reverse?
George
-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Robbin Roddewig Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 7:52 PM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: M15 OB
George, you can google the manual for the motor. If it is like the Honda 2HP that I had on my M-15 it swivels to do reverse and had a friction clutch to take care of not having a shift. You start in low speed and you rev it up to get the propeller spinning. Very simple, air cooled. Nice motors. I still have mine for my M-10. Good luck!
Robbin
On 4/13/2013 8:37 PM, George R. Iemmolo wrote:
I have a 3HP short shaft Yamaha that came with the boat. Looking at it I
see
that it does not have a shift lever of any sort not even a neutral to keep the boat from moving at the start up of the motor.
Does any one have a similar situation and how do you cope coming in to a dock, starting up, etc?
What do most of you use on a M15?
George
M15 #602
NoNameYet
The back half of the port side toe rail is back in place. The new square drive screws and stopper nuts worked great and the rail went right back without much fuss. It just took about twice as long as I had figured (typical). I have some pictures of the process on my photo site https://picasaweb.google.com/110938325409185510143/M23 but the rail is now completely glued to the deck lip as I used generous amounts of 3M5200 to bed the rail and bed the screws. Messy business as each screw passed through a hole filled with 5200 and I buttered each screw just to make double dog sure that we would not see any water follow the screw into the boat. I tried to fill the deck to hull joint, but as it is mostly as thin as a putty knife blade at the vertical exterior joint, squirting 5200 into the gap was very difficult. I mostly relied on the screws for the structural integrity and the fact that the hull and deck are mostly glued together from other various means. Since I could not really re-glue to joint I may throw a few strips of resin and cloth across the joint to tab them together in the mid section (after cleaning up the interior surfaces that are covered in old caulk/sealant goo). The stern already had a few of these strips which dissuaded me from jacking apart the deck from the hull as impractical. I would say to other contemplating this same project (Bones) that it is not difficult at all. The complications come from what your previous owners have done to impeded your access to the screws and nuts on the interior. like at the stern I found that they had completely covered in epoxy (buried) the washers and nuts. I more thorough mariner would have tried to dig all that out. I just left them and reused the nuts as is with new screws. The access in that very back corner is next to impossible. With any luck, I will not have any more leaks as I have made it such that redoing this will be very difficult (one of the benefits of 5200)! Cheers! Robbin M-23 and M-10
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