No problem on current...we've not had any rain in weeks. Beautiful lake to sail on...I am thinking of ordering a M15 but have not seen one. On September 13th...will you be going back through Nashville? If so, I'll buy lunch or dinner to take a look at your boat?! Jim Boyd Equity Corporation, LLC 1300 Division Street - Suite 100 Nashville, Tennessee 37203 Mobile: 615.473.8180 Office: 615.242.4417 Fax: 615.254.5405 -----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Michael Murphy Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 10:51 AM To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats Subject: Re: M_Boats: Current on Kentucky Lake Thanks for the replies. Jim, we'll be sailing out of the north end, either Lighthouse Landing at Grand Rivers or Ken Lake SP. Trip is planned for September 9-13. Planned down draw is currently rated as "average" current, but from past stats it appears that most releases are in the evening/night hours so I'm hoping this means it won't affect us while beating up lake/river. On 9/1/11, jim pc <jimboyd@equcor.com> wrote:

Mike...where are you sailing out of on Kentucky Lake?

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-----Original Message----- From: montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com [mailto:montgomery_boats-bounces@mailman.xmission.com] On Behalf Of Michael Murphy Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 7:33 AM To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Subject: M_Boats: Current on Kentucky Lake

I've been trying to find the speed of the current on Kentucky Lake. The Corps site only lists it by CF/Sec, or as "average", "high", or "low". For cruise planing it would be helpful to be able to convert these to knots. Mike, M-15 Fionnula

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dale: sailrite (www.sailrite.com) has some spinnaker measurements for the M17. when you say 'difference be from one tack to the other on average?' do you mean the arc the bow travels when coming about? if yes ... it depends - the strength of the wind, sea state, how consistent the wind is and the condition of your sails (to name a few of the variables). most folks try to point to high in light wind. best to fall off a bit and gain speed. in light wind, <5 kts, my guess would be tack at least 100 degrees (off the wind by at least 50 degrees when the tack is completed) :: Dave Scobie :: M17 #375 - SWEET PEA - www.m17-375.webs.com :: Sage Marine - www.sagemarine.com --- On Fri, 9/2/11, Dale Nummi <nummij@aol.com> wrote:

When going into a lite wind what should the differance be from one tack to the other on average? If I run accross a spinicker what size's would work? Dale M17 

Below are some "typical dimensions" for modern all-purpose spinnakers on a boat with rig dimensions of I=22' and J=6.6' . I and J are only partial rig measurements-- there are other measurements that affect how the spinny flies. These dimensions might vary depending on length and height of spinnaker pole, bowsprit(y/n), location of spinnaker sheet block, etc. Hope this helps give you a rough idea of what might be usable on your boat. Keep in mind, that many individual boats don't match the published I, P, E and J dimensions. "I" is the dimension from the top of the forestay to the (projected) intersection of mast and deck. "I" does not equal the dimensions from the top of the mast to the cabin top. I'd recommend a spinny less than about 10 years. In general, the newer ones are much more forgiving and easier to fly than older ones. The shape of the shoulders and the fullnenss of the sail make a huge difference in how easily it flies and the range of apparent wind angles that it can be used for. AP Cruising Symmetric Spinnaker: SLuff 6.12m (20.1') SLeech 6.12m(20.1') SHalfwidthGirth 3.62m SFoot 3.62m (11.9') Area= 18.39 m2 = 198 sf AP Cruising Chute/Asymmetric Spinnaker: ASLuff 6.65m (21.8') ASLeech 6.16 (20.2') ASHalfwidth 3.36m (11') ASFoot 3.62 m (11.9') Area = 18.14 m2 = 195 sf. (or less) (or get one with a shorter luff and leech if you want to tack it on the pulpit) Fair winds, Judy Blumhorst Hyde Sails USA, Northern California judyb@hydesailsUSA.com cell: 925.208.1692 fax: 925.820.2327 skype: judith.blumhorst www.HydeSails.com/NorthAmerica ________________________________ From: Dale Nummi <nummij@aol.com> To: montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com Sent: Fri, September 2, 2011 12:58:24 PM Subject: M_Boats: Pointing and spinicker info When going into a lite wind what should the differance be from one tack to the other on average? If I run accross a spinicker what size's would work? Dale M17 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats When posting, remember that there is no privacy on the Internet!

That is what I thought. Thank you I hope to meet you some day Dale -----Original Message----- From: jerry <jerry@jerrymontgomery.org> To: For and about Montgomery Sailboats <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Fri, Sep 9, 2011 6:17 pm Subject: Re: M_Boats: Pointing and spinicker info A well-tuned 15 or 17 with good sails should be able to tack in 90 degrees. jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Nummi" <nummij@aol.com> To: <montgomery_boats@mailman.xmission.com> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 12:58 PM Subject: M_Boats: Pointing and spinicker info

When going into a lite wind what should the differance be from one tack to > the other on average? If I run accross a spinicker what size's would work? Dale M17 _______________________________________________ http://mailman.xmission.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/montgomery_boats

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